Ukraine LC Debates, Arguments and Terrible Memes

are you a russophob viktor?

The Russian army is literally bombing maternity hospitals and shooting civilians in the street.

I would think it possible in this crazy mixed-up world for people to find it in their hearts to [checks notes] hate both the US and Russia.

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They were no angels.

Yes, and please bring it up in this thread early and often when Russian atrocities are called out. Very useful conversation. Russia and USA are the exact same. Russia is running the Nazi playbook, but the US is just as bad. Got it.

I deleted my take along those lines because I didn’t want to escalate with Vic. You fucked around, it’s time to find out.

I don’t really want to escalate with him either. I was just trying to point out that he’s both-sidesing-mannnn in a thread where one government is currently committing 1000s of war crimes a day. Not really the optimal venue. Like how do you follow this whole thread and come up with “well actually, the US is evil too” as your primary takeaway?

This is the last text I got from the woman who cuts my hair, whose parents live in a small city on the front lines:

Thank you !
By each one praying heart :heart: city still wasn’t taken under Russian!!!
God is helping them to resist and not be taken!
Thank you for your prayers :pray::innocent::ukraine::heart:
But alot all around Okhtyrka - as big city Sumy, Trostaynetz , Dobroslavovka

 and so much more villagers where were farms all destroyed/ all taken under Russian troops and people can’t get any humanitarian provisions no food no water

 they are in miserable desperate situation, russian soldiers get families out of homes and take and do everything they want

But sure, let’s tut tut anytime someone calls out the Russians for starting a Hitler-esque war of conquest and basically re-running the Nazi playbook to the letter, at home and abroad, in 2022.

(Deleted - stupid escalation on my part)

Ok, please tell us what you meant by your post. I’m all ears.

after WW2 the era of other wars had begun, peaceniks

wat

We found out.

its like surprise tho

You might want to read up on what Russian soldiers did in WWII. Or Syria. Or Afghanistan. As bad as the US is - they’re 10x worse. The US didn’t rape their way across Germany as policy. Both sides are not the same.

I responded to VFS because I don’t think it’s practical to shoot your wounded in any numbers and still maintain an effective army. But I have no qualms saying that if they thought it would work, Russian officers would do just that.

read something recently, that Má»č Lai-type situation was the regular-type of operation in Vietnam

seems a bit strange to think one warring society has a met a bar of excellence in belligerence

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I don’t think it’s intrinsic nature of Russians. Any army can turn evil if that’s the message and direction coming down from above. Those US soldiers who destroyed Vietnam villages qualify (same in Korea, the Philippine War, etc). But the Russian military has been pure evil from the top for a long long time.

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Yeah I was editing that into my post but Victor replied too fast.

Sorry Victor, I was just trying to respond with something about how the Russians really are doing evil things right now. I wasn’t trying to get into a big tiff. I should have taken your post in the half-serious way it was mean and not replied.

I blame @goofyballer who likes to escalate things. I knew once he replied to me this would turn into a big mess.