Ukraine Invasion 2: no more Black Sea fleet for you

lol Thanks USA some great intelligence there

New intelligence reviewed by U.S. officials suggests that a pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines last year, a step toward determining responsibility for an act of sabotage that has confounded investigators on both sides of the Atlantic for months.

U.S. officials said that they had no evidence President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine or his top lieutenants were involved in the operation, or that the perpetrators were acting at the direction of any Ukrainian government officials.

Doesn’t explain how, or really who, just some “pro Ukrainian group”

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Ok it seems like the US intelligence drop was just to get ahead of the German newspaper investigation

The Germans find that yacht was rented by 6 people with forged papers. The yacht has to connection to Ukrainians

https://twitter.com/Georg_Heil/status/1633154303014629391

I’m sorry I was told cui bono. USA still did it

It is a bit odd that Ukraine, who doesn’t exactly have a top skill navy, would so happen to have a commando team skilled enough to do an underwater detonation covertly.

I didn’t get all the details of Hersh’s reporting but I think the German reporting doesn’t match up with what he said happened though.

Could it have been a Ukrainian hiring some non-Ukrainians? If so, could those non-Ukrainians have included Americans?

I guess Russia has a strong incentive to not give up before 2024 and to meddle in the next presidential election. Someone tell them they need to take out DeSantis. Stay away from windows, Ron!

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1633215060368605185?s=20

Sounds like the plot of a Tom Clancy novel

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rofl in no way is hersh, or you, vindicated.

Right. They didn’t. It’s the fucken CIA leaking a cover story to the NYT. It’s laughable propaganda.

in case it’s a more obscure reference than I assumed

Does the CIA let the public know when they do secret agent shit? Opinions vary.

Will the NYT examine its role in this, and self-reflect on its job as stenographer? Not a chance

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Sometimes the CIA does good things.

Right. The CIA works in mysterious ways. No matter who says anything about how it went down or who did it, it’ll always be the CIA was ultimately behind it, even if no one ever saw them do anything.

You’d have to be a real hardcore idiot to think the CIA aren’t likely to be involved in some capacity in important global events, seeing how they exist to do just that.

If you want to say it was good that the US blew up the pipeline then I think you’re wrong but who cares. The people who think like six Ukrainians rented a fucken schooner and drove it up to the the baltic sea and blew up the pipeline? I guess they’ll believe anything the government says, no matter how outlandish.

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As long as the government is not uncouth

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What evidence would you accept that would make you think the US government is not involved?

rofl yeah man, just a bunch of freelance frogmen renting a fucken yacht and setting hundreds of pounds of shaped charges three hundred feet deep.

Imagine entertaining this nonsense for even a moment.

Why are you sure frogmen were involved? Couldn’t they just lower the explosives from the boat? A large explosive charge wouldn’t need to be in contact with the pipeline to destroy it.

Divers could have probably blown holes in the pipelines with only a few pounds of explosives. The fact that this was done with large explosions that could be detected from far away makes me think it wasn’t done by frogmen.

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