Ukraine Invasion 2: no more Black Sea fleet for you

i haven’t seen anything from them that jumped out as wrong or misleading. it looks like the headline was pulled out of the text and caused an alarming effect, which makes it unfortunate rather than questionable. the biggest knock i guess is that they are calling themselves an “institute” to gain credibility, even though … they might not be

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I’m not seeing much in the way of claims except by apparent randoms, and I ignore them. Credible people seem to be mostly quiet. We’ll know when we know is not exactly reassuring. :man_shrugging:

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1565413239151902721?s=20&t=Ep9D8Pz_9dWqsT2RkRmcyw

Hadn’t heard a lot about drones lately, but they’re still out there.

https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1565396439714435077?s=20&t=dD5aENFQ8F3N2W9TFbv-FA
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1565375857480310785?s=20&t=dD5aENFQ8F3N2W9TFbv-FA

New War on the Rocks with Michael Kofman.

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Lots of brilliant replies to Russian propaganda threatening Finland:

https://twitter.com/Kama_Kamilia/status/1525938859195998209?s=20&t=GuHOjYn9dQPTAkq3RJJ8Xg

https://twitter.com/agohl2305/status/1525984982170214400?s=20&t=GuHOjYn9dQPTAkq3RJJ8Xg

Simo Häyhä , often referred to by his nickname, The White Death , was a Finnish military sniper in World War II during the 1939–1940 Winter War against the Soviet Union. (…) He is believed to have killed over 500 men during the Winter War, the highest number of sniper kills in any major war.[2][3][4][5]

https://twitter.com/oldmacheathbabe/status/1526052280314765312?s=20&t=GuHOjYn9dQPTAkq3RJJ8Xg

https://twitter.com/TrixxieTriss/status/1526224884795183109?s=20&t=GuHOjYn9dQPTAkq3RJJ8Xg

https://twitter.com/triftenC/status/1526170913422680067?s=20&t=GuHOjYn9dQPTAkq3RJJ8Xg

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So basically Russia is going to try invading Russia right before winter?

Quelle surprise
https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1565739141349916672?t=PdZtfo3_8enfJbn_T0Afdg&s=19

https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1565742365901471746?t=T2BJrGWczcoUA1J0fm0GCg&s=19

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The leak probably happened in that hospital where the Lukoil boss „fell“ out of the window. Slipped on a puddle of oil - tragic.

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insane video of close battle featuring AFU spetznaz or similar. not sure how the russians got caught with potentially no weapons or ammo in the trenches. AFU had low ground but were not afraid of getting shot at all.

If this is right, Putin has responded to Ukraine’s moves in the south in a predictable way that favors Ukraine. The strategy will work if Ukraine continues to be well supplied by the West but I think it’s likely continuing this level of support depends on success so it’s tricky.

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I am wondering what the Ukrainian plan is once they retake Kherson and reach the Dniper if they have destroyed all the bridges.

Good question. That’s the ??? step afaict. The thread mentions that Putin had to weaken his position elsewhere and lost some ground but a collapse seems unlikely. This could go on a very long time.

I would assume the next step would be to either fix up the bridges or build new pontoon bridges. The key for Ukraine right now is they can outrange Russia, so once they get to the river, they would have an easier time crossing and maintaining bridges than Russia has. Would likely still be hard to cross, but not impossible.

Ukraine also seems to have a bit more air superiority as they are focusing attacks on Russian air defense, so that should help too in terms of being able to cross.

Not possible to fix bridges with Russian machine guns on the other bank. New pontoon bridges almost impossible, would need to achieve surprise for at least a day.

To get across, they would need to mount an air or amphibious assault and take the other bank before building a bridge or just attack from Zaporizhzhia further East. I think the real goal is to inflict a defeat big enough and get video of thousands of POWs to convince Putin to call it a day.

ain’t going to be machine guns on the other bank, artillery is the question. If they can outrange artillery, they’ll cross

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Hypothetically yes but they’re more interested in using those weapons on hospitals and other civilian centers.

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Hasn’t been so precise

Bridges or no bridges, it seems unlikely Ukraine was ever going to attack across the river. I assume the plan is liberate Kherson and then focus efforts somewhere else.

Ukraine still controls both banks of the Dnieper further upstream. If they truly hold all the West bank moving south from Zaporizhia (or however you spell that) in the direction of the Melitopol-Mariupol-coast would threaten to isolate the Russian troops on the lower Dnieper (and their supplies).