wapo and the study it cited only uses the official numbers from ВЦИОМ and Levada, which are garbage polls to begin with. and they never address how tiny the respondents rate is.
Opinion polls consistently show that the majority of respondents support the actions of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine.
done!
Can you point me in the direction of a reputable poll measuring war support in Russia?
Response rates for polls everywhere have plummeted over the decades. They’re quite low in the US, in part leading to the Great Unskewing Pollz movement.
The response rate in the Russian polls in question didn’t change before and after the war started.
ukraine is still playing a very cautious counteroffensive game. perhaps too cautious for our appetite, but noone can question Zaluzhnyj. dude is going to come out looking like Eisenhower.
basically, they are less concerned about quickly taking back territory, and would rather focus on controlling the russian ability to fight, which is still very high and mobiks already appearing at the front. this is roughly what happened in Kharkiv. the ukrainian offensive employed smaller numbers of soldiers than russia had garrisoned in the region, and the objective was cutting supply routes. but they ended up capturing more territory than they thought possible in the same time, because the second and third line of russian defense “collapsed” and exposed the russian army hq post to artillery. once command folded, the units retreated in haste.
IMHO, AFU wants to stem the flow of new equipment and ammo into donbass first, and then force the ru lines of defense to collapse/retreat like in kharkiv. this would recapture territory with fewer casualties to both sides.
most independent organizations doing polling in russia were outlawed since about 2020. since 2020, the rest were labeled extremist, foreign agents, and were forced into jail or exile.
So what are you basing your statements that the war is not popular in Russia on?
have you been following the protests against mobilization? or the people fleeing on foot to neighboring countries?
SK continuing to bring heat in a topic he has been nothing but completely wrong about without ever acknowledging the size of his errors is truly a sight.
I have! Seems smaller that these protests:
Which happened when about 60% of the US public supported the Iraq war.
yeah, protests in russia don’t look like that
https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1573977123920007175
Right, my point is that existence of protests and dissent isn’t a reliable measure of public opinion. The Iraq war protests were massive but the war was still pretty popular. I don’t doubt that millions of Russians are opposed to the war and Putin. Showing the existence of dissent doesn’t show if that dissent is shared by 15% or 50%.
What was I wrong about that I haven’t acknowledged? I’m sure it’s “everything” but try to be specific.
opposition to the war is a bit more serious when riot police are needed to scare women with automatic weapon fire.
It’s pretty impressive that someone who vehemently argued the wrong side of like every argument ITT leading up to the invasion is now arrogantly arguing the contrarian side ITT again.
Is the consensus here that Putin is unpopular? I thought lots were saying fuck average Russian and their soldiers because they support Putin and the war. I recall people posting lots of TikTok’s where Russians were more concerned about mall closures than dead Ukrainians.
generally, when more than half the country is scared to voice an opinion, it’s not an indicator of great support
Really a treat where the pro-Putin contrarian can cite the normally very pro-Ukrainian Washington Post and the and the “correct” side is posting videos of a couple of hundred guys rioting as evidence of…something.
I think that the consensus is that the mobilization is unpopular, and that as a result the war has become a lot more unpopular since then. I think the stuff you’re referring to was a couple months ago, right?
