It’s not trying to seize power if no one else plays along!
Can’t read the story because I don’t have a subscription. Let me guess, a bunch of blind quotes from anonymous sources?
Trump?
Dude, MARK MEADOWS is scared.
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I tend to find myself agreeing with you a lot more these days than circa 2+2, however I can’t shake the sense that, we could all be burned blind and gasping our dying breaths in a radioactive wasteland, and you’d be like “not sure what the big deal is, everything seems fine to me!”
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The actual harm that Trump is doing has nothing to do with the risk of him usurping power, which is exactly zero. The risk is that he’s undermining the faith in the democratic process and the legitimacy of elections. That’s very real damage, and done intentionally. That I think it’s being done for cynical personal political and financial gain post-election, rather than some ridiculous and doomed attempt to seize power, makes it even more reprehensible.
You can’t know anything about history and claim his chances of success are zero. Very very low, yes. Zero, no.
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Yeah this. His chances aren’t zero. THey’re low enough that I’m not worried, but they’re not zero.
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What historical examples am I missing that support your view?
His chances are closer to 0 than to 1% and it’s not particularly close in that regard. On the other hand we’ve been running bad for four years and absolutely atrocious for about a year, so…
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It’s not -0-
And again. The results are irrelevant. Trump is attempting a coup. Full stop.
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No intention of getting into a keeeeeeeeeeed.
No intention of actually defending your ridiculous position? You don’t say.
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I mean the title of this thread is “Trump isn’t trying to seize power.” It kind of seems like he is though? I get that he’s not likely to be successful. If the thread title was “Trump is going to successfully seize power” I’d be right there with you on the incredulity.
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The scariest part is that nearly half of the country is on board with it. That seems to me to be the biggest problem moving forward.
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I don’t think there is any real way to know that for sure. My feelies suggest he has at least low single digit chances. But I have to admit I have no idea if that’s right. I just think if he finds the right toady in the brass they can make it very difficult to disobey orders. And considering that half the country would be totally cool with that, it puts us at unprecedented risk.
OK so we can probably agree on two things: Trump is never going to concede and acknowledge the results of the election, and he’s going to leave peacefully when Biden is inaugurated.
So what does Trump have to do to leave his true believers, who he’s going to grift as hard as he can once he leaves office, feeling like Trump didn’t betray them? Give them at least the illusion that he’s putting up a fight. Then he and Powell and Flynn will get up on stage in some dumb rally (maybe even on Inauguration Day!) and say, you know what, I really have been treated unfairly, all my people abandoned me except these two, they were all deep state plants, but I had to leave because it would just tear the country apart.
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Holy shit, this is a bad take. Even from you.
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why?
Because Trump has NPD and is incapable of thinking like that. He’s 73 years old. Have you ever heard him say anything close to that before? He’s an authoritarian prick, not authoritative.
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