Who exactly do you think is arguing that?
Louis seems to think that because male and female sport has historically been separate itās some kind of slam dunk as to trans athletes. As if that historic separation isnāt largely the product of a system built on male power structure.
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IOC requires testing for testosterone, at least 2 years of hormone therapy and other stuff. Just super hard with small peaks for athletes to do this and still be a top tier athlete.
The CBC article on this said for Tokyo that 3 trans athletes would complete of over 11,000 athletes.
Yeah, you nailed it. Itās the patriarchy that protects Lebron James, Rafael Nadal, Anthony Joshua, Leo Messi from having to compete with women.
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This is a bad point dude. The WNBA was founded in 1996!
and in a hundred years the WNBA players still wonāt be able to compete in the NBA
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Idk why youāre dissing on them, the Atlanta Dream players running a campaign against their owner, having Loeffler then lose her election and sell the team was one of the most baller moves of recent memory.
Nadal has competed with and against women fwiw.
What has any of that to do with what I said?
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In my older days, Iāve grown to love playing co-ed sports. Mainly because the biggest douchebags donāt play in those leagues and it lets me have more fun.
However, sexism isnāt the reason why thereās no women in the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLS, etc.
Now, could those women play in lower divisions? Sure. But a big part of sport is winning and excelling at something. If you donāt allow women to play in their own divisions, theyāll never achieve those things.
In soccer, for example, the USWNT is on par with a boys team made of high schoolers, and not an especially good team. Without divisions, those women will never get to compete in olympics, world cups, etc. They instead would be relegated to never playing beyond amateur level.
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Iām not arguing against gender divisions and not against the fact that males are generally phenotypically stronger than females.
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Iām saying that doesnāt explain all of the gender segregation is sport. Why no female goalies? Coaches?
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itās irrelevant if a tiny fraction of the 0.6% of trans people want to play sport and if an even smaller fraction end up at the elite level. The āharmā it would cause is infinitesimal when balanced against these anti-trans laws being pushed everywhere.
When balancing these two issues this is one of the biggest slam dunks I can think of in the world of social policy.
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I have no idea what your point is, so below may be completely irrelevant.
I donāt think that anyone would have a problem with a 6ā and under league if you wanted to start one up. I think it fails due to lack of demand. On the other hand there is some demand for womenās sports. And at the school-age level, the demand is quite high.
There is also demand for age restricted leagues at that level, which is why those exist. If you wanted to start a short people basketball league, I donāt think anyone would stop you. I also think that you would have a hard time signing up players.
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There currently are players under 6 feet in the NBA but maybe your point is that there wonāt be in a hundred years. Whatever.
Besides gender there are other restrictions in place to ensure a more level playing field. Imagine boxing without weight classes. We have age groups for the young and the old so they wonāt get permanently crushed by twenty-somethings. Even in chess there are tournaments that restrict participation by rating.
There will never be perfect system but obviously there is demand for providing a more level playing field.
If weāre gonna go by testosterone, it has to be noted that weāll have genetic females fighting against genetic males and vice versa. Way too much variation and a lot of that can be easily influenced by PEDs.
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100m butterfly
49.50 world record (not Phelps)
49.82 previous world record (Phelps)
55.48 womanās world record
51.08 25th fastest male time ever
One of the most sexist things alive today is the segregation of men and womenās sports.
Should we get rid of any and all gender classifications for all sports? I ask this seriously. That would certainly be the simplest and cleanest solution to all of this.
If people do not agree to abolishing gender classifications in sports, I would like to know why.
In soccer, I think the answer to bolded is pretty obvious.
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In soccer? Because they are nowhere close to good enough. Coaches is a fair question even though you are seeing women coaches in several sports, including the NBA and NFL.
The rest is not relevant to my post.
Really? Cliffs? Iād love to see someone attempt that.
Because it would mean that women do not get to compete at the top level of any sport against their peers.
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Sounds good.
Oops, found a bunch of cis white males.
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