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Lmao I can’t read 🤷
I’m drunk grunching but this movie is great. I’ll try not to respond to too much more from 2 days ago
Directed by Bryan Singer
Really enjoyed this article from the screenwriter for Eyes Wide Shut.
http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/sk/page12a.htm?LMCL=KVyXkQ
Joe Mankiewicz used to say that a good script had, in some sense, already been directed. That is not the kind of script Kubrick would ever want. Anything too finished left him with an obligation to obedience. The only kind of rebel he was, in fact, was a rebel against being told what to do.
The fourth or fifth version of the script was blanched of nearly all the duplicity that had made if alive for me. I was now compiling a color-it-yourself book in which the spaces might have seductive outlines but were not to carry any instructions. I recalled that when Henry James finally renounced working in the theatre a friend asked him whether he could explain why his plays were flops. Were they too intellectual? James doubted it. “After all,” he said, “I tried so hard to be base.”
If I often longed for release, it was a matter of professional honor not to show it. It was not until the end of June that I sent off the last batch of pages for the last time. I added a chattier letter than usual.I ended by saying, “Do you know the story about the man who was having a pair of trousers made by a Jewish tailor and it was taking forever? Two months, three months, six months. Finally he said to the tailor, ‘It took the good Lord six days to make the world and you it takes six months to make a pair of pants?’ And the tailor sald, ‘So? Look at the world, and then look at this pair of pants.’ Why does this story occur to me at this stage? Best regards, Freddie.”
In mid-December, I received a fax from Kubrick; he had completed his work on the script and had cast Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as the troubled couple. Would I be able to “come out to the house one day during the holidays,” have lunch, and then sit in a room with tea and biscuits for an hour or so and read what he had been doing on the script? “Best regards, Stanley.”
He smiled, and I went back to the cab and got in. I waved to him through the window as if - although I should never trade on it - we were now close friends.
I rewrote the script, several times, and I talked with him, always at length, on the telephone, but I never saw him again.
King, doubtful this is the story you were thinking of since it’s the screenwriter instead of Tom, but here is a billiard story with Kubrick
Afrer a while, we went into what had evidently once been a billiard room. There were still markers and cue racks on the walls, but no table. Most of the floor was covered with newspapers with unfamiliar print. When Kubrick went to pee, I looked closely and saw that they came from Jakarta.
On his return, I asked him what particularly interested him about Indonesia. He looked puzzled. I indicated the newspapers. “Oh,” he said, "not a lot. I was only checking the size of the ads for ‘Full Metal Jacket.’ Making sure they’re as big as they should be according to the contract.
I said, “I wouldn’t mind a pee myself”
He led me along corridors and down steps and around corners and into the kind of facility you would expect to find in a clubhouse. There were two cubicles side by side and a row of urinals. As he went to leave, I said, “How do I get back?”
“Stick to the left-hand wall,” he said. “And keep coming.”
I mentioned this in the other thread. I liked Valkyrie, but this was one where I thought Tom was miscast. It’s not that he was bad in it, he wasn’t. It’s just that he was opposite guys like Tom Wilkinson, Kenneth Branagh, Bill Nighy, Terence Stamp, David Schofield, Kevin McNally…ALL Brits. His Yankee “accent” kind of stuck out like a sore thumb to me. I think someone like Jude Law or Cumberbatch would have been a better fit there, even though Tom does actually resemble the real Stauffenberg.
Also did you catch that the actor who played Tom’s wife was none other than
It’s definitely an uphill battle to be a demanding obsessive perfectionist and not be seen as an asshole. It’s still something we sort of struggle with as a society, that some of the best creators/inventors tend to have personality traits that also make them incredibly difficult for anyone to get close to (i.e. Steve Jobs). Where the line goes from being demanding to abusive is definitely blurry.
This was always how I felt about this movie. I always preferred MI2 because I understood what was going on (though the last time I watched it in my late twenties I thought it kinda sucked). I’ve watched the first one a couple of times and I do really enjoy it but I have to say I still think it’s a convoluted mess
Yeah for me Cruise having an American accent and everyone else a British accent (I think there were a few german accents too, weirdly enough), was strange. I think that in a movie like that everyone should have a uniform national accent and then use the accents as a way to signify class. Rome did this really well, compare Caesar or Octavian’s accent with Titus Pullo’s accent. It seems like Singer was all just fuck it, everyone talk with whatever the fuck accent, who cares. Which I kind of like but Cruise was supposed to be playing this cultured aristocrat, which doesn’t work with a neutral American accent. It’s one of the rare instances where “he’s playing Tom Cruise” is actually a legitimate criticism. Like Tom’s movie persona works with a bunch of different characters but not German aristocrat. You put someone in there with a posh British accent and it works much better.
But just not paying attention to accents is way better than trying to make everyone adopt a German accent, that’s just dumb.
I always thought Hunt for Red October suffered from this too. Connery’s Scottish, Neill’s New Zealander, Tim Curry’s still British and oh we do have some Russians on board lol. It was especially weird when Jack Ryan and the other Americans boarded, and they kept their same accents somehow.
Yeah I think that they basically said let’s just do what Red October did with accents: Fuck It. They even used the same sort of device for using English, Tom Cruise starts out speaking (presumably flawless) German then switches to English. Which, thank god, I’m not trying to read for two hours during a Tom Cruise movie. That’s what made me stop watching the new Star Trek series. Fuckin ten minute dialogues in a literally made up language. Actors in rubber masks screaming at each other in “Klingon”. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, anyone who spoke English once Jack boarded the sub should have had a Russian accent.
Thank for posting. This is an interesting find, but definitely not what I was referring to. The discussion, as best as I remember it, had more to do with Stanley’s directing style and how Tom was warned (?) before taking the role how difficult he could be. Tom then talks about early shooting and how easy it was and he didn’t understand what everyone was worried about. Then filming on this scene started:
Not sure that this is the entire scene either but you get a sense of the length and dialogue involved. This was where the Stanley everyone warned him about showed up in full bloom.
About the production, it says on the wiki page:
The Guinness World Records recognized Eyes Wide Shut as the longest constant movie shoot, “for over 15 months, a period that included an unbroken shoot of 46 weeks”.[28]
Agreed. Kubrick stories make that dynamic clear. Like I could watch Eastwood movie and never know he told the actors just rehearse it for a minute, then secretly turned the camera on and used that for the film take lol. But the guy is famous for coming in ahead of schedule and under budget.
But Tom tells one story about how he’s the biggest movie star on the planet and just wants Stanley to let him know how much time he needs. He’ll work on the movie for the next two years, but he needs an end date. He can’t take meetings and plan to make other movies when Eyes Wide Shut is on course to become the longest film production in history and there’s no final day of shooting in sight.
I think though that if it turns out a great movie, a lot of people are willing to forgive the grueling process. I’m not generally willing to work with awful people anymore no matter what I would have gotten out of it, but to be involved with a Kubrick movie???
I hope one of us finds the interview you’re describing.
Sydney Pollack was awesome in EWS.
Update: I have now seen Color of Money. Pretty good! I clearly didn’t need to waste my time watching The Hustler. And Cruise’s hair is absolutely preposterous.
The random Forest Whitaker appearance was fantastic, and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio was something else.
And Cruise’s hair is absolutely perfect.
FYP
It’s absolutely ridiculous.
Look at how perfect MEM is in that picture, and look at that nonsense on top of his head.
He’s like a flannel-clad Lee Hotti prototype.
Hollywood Hair Hall of Fame right there