Tipping in the Time of Corona

See at least here they all got a bump in pay, not enough, and have kept it so far.

Friend who works for Walmart said they let them take time off whenever they don’t feel well but it’s not paid so everyone knows how that goes.

Yeah, this is a classic example of the tipping system setting the non-rich against each other.

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I’m not sure if you’re talking about takeout or Instacart, though. On Instacart I tip like 10% of orders around $200, for takeout food being delivered through DoorDash or UberEats, I’m tipping like 20% on orders around $25 and feel guilty for doing it because it seems bad in the pandemic - but once CARES ran out and I wasn’t in the city and could do true contactless delivery, I started doing it. I figured if the government isn’t helping people and unemployment is high, spending some money with local restaurants and delivery drivers is defensible.

I also do curbside about once a week at a coffee place and give them a 10% tip on a $15 order for walking it outside, which takes about 60 seconds or less. These are all regular employees, I’m guessing they’re making about $15/hr because they are a pretty socially conscious coffeehouse. These are their regular employees who would be inside anyway, so having them come out is not increasing their risk.

I’ve been ordering from Dominos, Chipotle, a burger place, and a cheese steak place. The prices are pretty ridiculous around here ordering delivery through the apps, and as evidenced by the food selections, the food sucks compared to the city. But I went 7-8 months without doing any delivery food so I’ve been doing it sometimes anyway.

I tip the same regardless of whether its groceries, takeout, weed/beer delivery, it’s 25%

You are being pretty callous to the poor person living with elderly people who may be at the same level, or even worse off than, the delivery driver by saying it’s on them, imo. It’s not on them either.

That obviously doesn’t describe the excuse makers on this board, but just sayin.

I find myself getting tricked by companies bragging that they start employees at $15 pretty regularly, my first thought when I see the sign is “damn, $15’s pretty sweet” and then I remember it’s literally minimum wage and it’s not 2007 anymore.

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I already did the analysis that way and showed that I’m paying them a living wage + almost 50% hazard pay.

So I’ve shown my work on both.

Ok, yeah I don’t do weed/beer delivery (wish I could), but I do 20-25% on takeout and 10% on groceries and bump it if they do a good job. I mainly tip more on takeout because I think their time is likely used less efficiently and I think there should be a minimum acceptable tip on that stuff.

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I assume you live somewhere that it’s minimum wage? Here it’s still $7.25 or whatever.

Pennsylvania is a bit behind the curve on this. All adjacent states have higher than federal minimum wage. Even West Virginia.

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Yeah, most of the Bay Area is $15 or higher but the last time I actively hunted for a job it was closer to $9 so that’s still my mental anchor.

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I forgot you bailed to the ‘burbs… RIP dope food.

I hate the tipping system. Subsidizes what owners should pay and forces people to grovel and beg for what is often an inconsistent wage. It allows the customer to basically dock someone’s pay if they don’t like the service…f that.

Except we are talking about one single, able bodied male that is making well over $100 an hour working a couple days a month tipping a couple extra dollars.

I’m surprised by West Virginia and Ohio. The rest don’t have GOP gerrymandered state legislatures, so I’m not surprised PA is worse than our other neighbors.

Yeah, it sucks. I ordered Thai out here and it made me very very sad. The breakfast spot is pretty good, but still would be average at best in the city. My friend’s wife told me her favorite Mexican spot that I just had to check out, and it was a non-chain version of Chipotle.

But mainly this. It’s crazy that we’re asking people to subsidize below minimum wage pay with tips, but that’s the reality of the moment.

I guess I’m most curious about this. Someone doing takeout is just picking up a bag and dropping it off. Someone doing IC is selecting acceptable produce, fighting crowds, shopping for every item, and bagging the groceries (depending on the store). Both platforms are paying roughly the same to the driver. Why are you tipping the person doing significantly more work 10%?

Or to put it another way, you’re talking about a single male with numerous underlying health risks for COVID-19 who has reduced his income by about 75% to make the minimal amount necessary to try to tread water while minimizing his risks, who does not have any additional work available to him where masks are required. It’s not like I can just work an extra hour a month and add it all into the tipping I do. It’s a happy coincidence that the amount this game runs per month matches up with an EV of what I need to make to tread water.

I think I was tipping 15% on Instacart in the spring when I was still making closer to my normal income and asking them to bring the groceries to my apartment door.

But, whatever, shame away. I’ve had enough of this thread shaming me for tipping twice the recommended amount and over the average amount. I’ve made $16K in the last five months, like $25K if PredictIt ever pays out. That’s all pre-tax filing self-employed. If PI pays out by EOY, it’ll probably be around $17K in six months post-tax plus one more six hour session. My current living expenses are about $3,600 a month. I’m in the process of looking for side jobs and working on side hustles.

And of course if I go on a downswing for the remainder of the pandemic, which is very possible in 12 hours a month, I’m pretty fucked.

So anyone who wants to judge me for my Instacart tipping by citing my hourly can shove it as far as I’m concerned.

My understanding is that the DoorDash drivers and such are getting paid less by the platform and spend more time driving to and fro for no money. Essentially, they’re spending more time traveling for $0 than the Instacart driver is, because they have to do a larger volume of orders to generate the same gross amount that their tip is based on.

I’m not arguing either side here but probably because the IC order is $100 and the takeout order is $20.

I’ve never done grocery service before but I have to admit the percentage tip goes down as the absolute $$$ amount of the order goes down for cooked food delivery for me. If you are delivering $100 worth of food I tip $10 or so. If you are delivering $20 worth of food I tip $5-6. Maybe that makes me an asshole I dunno.

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I’m really not trying to drag you, but this seems insane for a single person with no reliable income. And another $20 per grocery tip won’t mean anything to you.

I think food delivery platforms have $4 minimums regardless of distance, and IC $7.