Who is actually advocating that everyone do that? We’re talking to a single male who lives alone who is arguing that an extra 10 bucks per delivery is gonna break his bankroll.
And like I said earlier - if you can’t afford it, dont do delivery. It’s that simple. It held before corona and it’s even more true now. You’re offloading risk onto someone less fortunate than you - compensate them for it.
If you can’t afford to tip the workers a decent amount of money to take the risk for you, you should just pick up your food yourself.
It’s an extra $500/yr, and I’ve cut my expenses down by like 30-35% a month. Part of the key here is that Instacart already marks everything up by 20% easily, sometimes much more than that. A Reddit user got a look at Instacart's markups. They're really high
So I’m already paying 20% in markup, plus fees, plus 10% in tip (sometimes a couple percent more), plus extra tax from the markup/fees. My orders are easily 35-40% more expensive already than pre-pandemic.
Customers do. I’ve mostly been using Wegmans, which I was shocked to see was cheaper than some of the stores I’d consider inferior stores. I think the markup may be less there, or something. I dunno.
They get to see exactly what I’m offering before taking the job. I’m not bait and switching. I’m extremely confident I’m paying above the going rate, too. Like I can’t help but smirk at people ripping into me for being stingy and suggesting I just do the shopping myself if I’m not willing to pay up, when if I went and did the shopping myself, the average Instacart pay in my area would probably tick down. Slightly cause I’m just one person, but still.
I would expect a little more compassion from this crowd considering how serious y’all have been about social distancing and quarantining. Those people are putting their health at risk so you can stay home safe and sound. You should make sure you are paying them well if you’re going to hire them.
This thread is blowing my mind. I have been extremely guilt ridden for months now about “only” tipping 25%. Maybe we should take a poll but I think I’m on the high end.
How would it lower overall risk and community spread if someone is shopping for you?
It’s the same amount of time someone is in the store doing the shopping. And for me I shop late night, at least at my main store, so I would think someone shopping for me would increase contact between people since they are not going to do it at eleven at night.
I’m paying them more than the average, so you’re actually advocating for reducing their average pay by getting someone in my spot to stop using the service.
You’re way on the high end societally, maybe this forum is different, but you shouldn’t feel guilty. The app defaults to 5%, guarantee you most people don’t change it or go lower.
Because if one Instacart shopper is doing say eight orders a day, the foot traffic in the grocery store is 87.5% lower than it would be if all eight shopped themselves.
I’m sorry, but “better than the going rate” is a pretty shitty metric in this context considering these people are probably getting the shaft as “the going rate.”
It’s not that simple. You can’t imagine a household with an elder grandparent, two working adults, and a child, getting by on 50-60k, with one or two people being at higher risk, wanting to have their groceries delivered but who can’t afford to pay $350 more in tips in a month over the arguably* fair rate of 10%?
See I thought Wegmans pays okish and offers benefits. Not sure though since we don’t have one and I don’t know anyone who works there. Think id take the Wegmans job over that cart place…
Alright. I mean there is almost no one in there when I shop at night.
Hope they don’t get sick and keep working…
What about the delivery driver with elderly grandparents at home who is putting his family’s lives at risk to make ends meet because he has no other options? I mean shit, there are a lot of people in bad situations. I’m sure we can conjure scenarios where extremely at risk people are forced to get delivery but cannot tip much. What I am saying is that you should tip as much as you can comfortably afford and for most of us that is a hell of a lot more than 5-10% of your grocery bill. Fuck i go long stretches of basically only eating takeout and its still only like a $500/month food bill for me after tipping. What the hell are you guys consuming to wrack up these massive bills?
I’d even go so far as to say if you genuinely cant afford it in your budget you should take the risk yourself, but I get that’s a little callous. But going to the store is still less risk than what these guys do every single day for very little pay. I have a tremendous amount of sympathy for these guys and I’m not sure I’ll ever get over the guilt of what I have been doing re: delivery during this pandemic.
I mean it appears they’re getting double from me what they were getting on-average pre-pandemic. Bottom line is this: if I stop using it, their average compensation goes down, not up.
As opposed to the average person showing up contagious? Like there’s no way reducing foot traffic significantly is a bad thing.
I’m getting normal grocery orders and paying like $200/wk. Keep in mind Instacart already has huge markup. I guess I’ve been ordering a little extra to stock up, but still.
Takeout is like $25+ a meal for me.
Most of the people who are doing your orders are thrilled to get them, I promise. You’re tipping huge.
I mean, I agree with your last points, but we don’t live in a society that is willing to sacrifice for its neighbors, as is evidenced by people’s attitudes toward tipping insta cart shoppers itt.
Takeout is $25 a meal for just you?? Are you only eating sushi and steak?
30 days of mostly takeout meals at 500 bucks? Ok
You are still putting risk on someone else less fortunate than you. No amount of rationalizing will change this fact.
To extend your logic - should I have to take the risk of getting in my car and getting my mcrib meal (car accidents are the leading cause of death among my age group other than suicide) because I can’t afford to tip my delivery driver? Cmon. Of course if you can’t afford it, it’s on you, not on fucking over some poor soul who is likely just a few small disasters away from homelessness.
The callousness here is unbelievable to me. I have such a different view of the covid thread now.
I’m shopping late night in an empty store for the most part. If I used that service they would be going in with the hordes so I would think I’m lowering the spread.
Like I said alright though.
$10 meal and then leftovers for lunch the next day. I utilize postmates premium or whatever it’s called for free delivery and always use the promo codes they have, which they run most days.
Sometimes I get like $50 of takeout so I can eat a few days if they’re running a promo that is on $40+ orders.
It’s easy if you’re not a moron and have simple food tastes.
I don’t have much more to say on this, but your reasoning here re: if you don’t use them then their pay goes down! Is fucked up. It just sounds like justification to me. And this isn’t even to say that you aren’t tipping enough, I can’t really answer that question, but your analysis should probably focus more on figuring out if he’s making a decent wage considering the sacrifice he making and the risk he’s taking on your behalf, not how you’re doing relative the cheap scumbags of the world.