The Television Streaming Thread: Part II - Hot Takes, Jags Fans, and Bert

All of us are Dead is a really fun zombie watch. I’m 3 episodes in and way too emotionally invested for some reason.

I’m watching and enjoying BF but not caring that much. Make sense? It’s delivering what I expect with some extra fan service I didn’t expect, and do enjoy.

Mando has something more for me. I want to know where the baby Yoda storyline goes (thpppt on Grogu, he is always baby Yoda to me).

I’m not hate watching. But I’m not fanboy like I am for the original trilogy.

4,5,6, R1, Mando have me. The rest have certain set pieces and fan service I like.

PS, sorry to say we just doomed the Bengals. We booked a room for the parade just in case. Mrs Spartan was denied the Reds parade as a teenager cause her parents didn’t think it was safe.

hell, I’m gonna go up to LA that weekend so I probably doomed them, too. Can’t go to the game but there’s going to be meet and greets and parties all over.

Sorry, I just see “serious critics” use the term fan service as a criticism so often that I’ve really come to hate it.

No, this stuff isn’t going to win any artsy-fartsy awards, but they make a shit ton of money, and a shit ton of people like it…because of fan service. I would even say the shows are GOOD. Good media/art is supposed to make us feel emotions, identify with the characters, care about the plot, etc, and I know a LOT of people who feel that way about genre/pop culture entertainment.

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I think fan service as a pejorative usually means just bringing back old characters for cameos or callbacks to other media in the series, without doing anything really new with the story. This show is doing both, so that’s fine.

They are doing something new with the Star Wars Universe, although at some point I hope we get more linear stories that take place after Rise of Skywalker. I loved Rogue one and Mando, but for as good as they are, there’s something about constantly revisiting the same time period where we know what’s going on in the larger galaxy that is always going to hold them back. I enjoyed reading some of the expanded universe books when I was younger because there’s always something more exciting about “here’s what happens next” instead of “Here’s a story that happened at the same time as the other ones” or the “in-between” stuff like Rogue One.

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It doesn’t make sense to do anything that takes place after RoS until they figure out what movies occur in that space. Hopefully, they can figure out how to use new series to lead into new movies the way Marvel is doing it.

You can do shows, movies, whatever. Just take a page from the MCU and actually plan this shit out. They had no idea what they were doing for the sequels, quite literally making them up as they went a long, and it really showed. And just because it takes place after RoS doesn’t mean they have to write themselves into a corner. But when you go back in time like this, you are sort of stuck with the cannon you did in the future timeline. We know Luke’s fate. We know the fate of his jedi academy. We know that whatever Grogu does in this timeline isn’t going to factor in to the events of the sequel movies, whereas if you are doing this in a more linear fashion you could absolutely have Grogu wielding a darksaber in full beskar fighting along side Rey or something awesome like that. That’s actually why I think he’s going to pick the armor over the saber. Mando and Book of Boba Fett may work well as standalone shows in a timeline where we already know the fate of the main characters in the galaxy, but at some point it would be nice to see them actually expand the universe in a much better way than the sequels did.

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I don’t really mind that the last couple eps of Boba have featured like 30 seconds of Boba. They’ve been entertaining, so whatever. I like that everything’s starting to connect together and they actually have an overarching vision. However, I do agree that this timeline is kinda limited in what stories it can tell due to already knowing major events in the near future, so I wish they’d move on to a different timeline.

Boba’s story seemed kinda cool w/the Tuskens and then that died off quickly and it got boring. There’s a slight bit of potential now that he’s amassing his crew, but there’s really not much reason to hate the Pykes or even care who wins this struggle tbh. The stakes are incredibly low and the other storylines are far more intriguing.

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Is it better to have a Boba Fett series with several Boba-light episodes or Mandalorian season 3 with several Boba episodes?

Probably the latter, but I’ll eat up anything Star Wars that isn’t terrible (and even the bad BF eps haven’t been terrible imo), so I’m glad we have both.

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Boba’s sidekick is the best part of the show.

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Solid wrap up that lays out the various interconnected parts from ep 6. Crossover galore.

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Was so disappointed by the first half of season 4 of Rick and Morty that I stopped watching entirely.

Decided to see what I missed on and it seems that the second half of the season was a significant improvement. Vat of Acid and the finale were excellent. But the other eight episodes sucked.

TIme to see season 5. I suspect it’ll be more like the first half of season 4 but you never know.

Well, with Dave Filoni in charge, Mandoverse is to the sequels what Clone wars is to the prequels. Disney is obviously putting him in charge of using his shows to make the sequels make sense. I wonder if in 25 years the sequels will have a revival like the prequels have now. I’m old enough to recall how much people HATED the prequels. I mean, hated. The only difference is that fanning the flames on social media didn’t exist.

After the Clone Wars series, the prequels were redeemed (for the most part).

I mean, there have already been hints in Mandolorian and BoBF about some of the stuff in the sequels. I have a feeling when it’s all said and done, Filoni will have found a way to make it all into a coherent story. It might not be the story we wanted, but it will at least be plausible.

I still say the problems with the prequels was not necessarily the characters and story arc. They were just shitty movies. There’s no amount of additional add-on content that will make them good standalone movies on their own.

The sequels sort of had the opposite problem. Good movies with the most vanilla of vanilla tired storylines.

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Okay. Guess I’m the only R&M viewer here but man S5E2 was a total stinker.

Talk about beating a joke into the ground.

Rick and Morty is on my “watch while stoned” playlist. I’ve been anxiously awaiting the season 5 drop on streaming. Is that today? I’ve heard it isn’t that good tho.

I think it arrives on Hulu at Midnight Eastern tonight.

I’ll watch it, but my opinion of S4 is only mildly more positive than Bob’s.

Just started Reacher. I’m in.

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You mean the season with the greatest episode ever? Edge of Tomorty: Rick Die Repeat

I downloaded the torrent for season 5.

I wouldn’t bother with it. They’ve basically replaced any creativity and wit the show previously had with crude sex jokes and predictable plots that pretty much beat one single concept to death by repeating the same joke for 20+ minutes. Probably the worst episodes of R&M ever created. Episode eight is better but it isn’t really funny because there actually aren’t any jokes in it. Haven’t seen the last two yet.

The dynamic between Rick and Morty has done a total 180 without any plausible explanation why. Hell, they barely do anything together in the episodes. The family is way more involved but none of those characters really grow and develop anymore. It’s not really The Adventures of Rick and Morty. It’s more like “The Adventures that the Smith Family Has While Separated From Each Other”.

Most of the episodes are self-contained, similar to The Simpsons but at the same time there are a couple of episodes (or parts of them) that establish continuity. So the show is trying to have it both ways and it kind of fails at both.

Season 4 basically had two really good episodes and the rest were mediocre at best. Season 5 has had mostly terrible episodes with one or two mediocre ones.