Joel was also very sketical of the Fireflies in genera.
Interesting I hadnāt thought of that, but yeah I could see it. Iām assuming the second game will probably get 2 seasons, I really wish they had stretched the first game out to 2 seasons but maybe it wouldnāt have worked as well idk. Overall I went into the show with extremely low expectations and they surprised me with a really good season of TV.
1 Like
TLOU + Poker Face nursing home ep
I thought it was interesting how in both the Riley episode and the 2 old ladies from Poker Face (released almost in the same week) they show these rebels as being cool and exciting and fighting for a noble cause before it turns out that theyāre uhh into bombing innocent people. I canāt decide if this depiction is:
- Heavy handed writing in service of a plot twist/moral dilemma
and/or - Institutional propaganda
and/or - An accurate description of the general reality of Establishment vs anti-Establishment forces
I think I would go with number 3. Everyone is terrible, there are no innocent people. Uplifting!
1 Like
This guy nails it for me. Exactly how I see the ending.
1 Like
yeah, i find myself a lot less sympathetic to the Fireflies than conventional wisdom might have it. I basically 100% agree with your take on this, but it seems we might be in the minority, lol
Watched TLOU finale. Felt like Joel was on a speed run of the last chapter.
4 Likes
This was a great quote from creator about LoU finale
People have asked why would Joel do that if could save the world. I always answer, he did save the world.
Itās as if people didnāt watch episode 3!
3 Likes
Wait, what? How have I not heard of this?! Justified is one of my all-time faves, canāt wait for this
Yep. FEDRA is trying to restore some semblance of order and stability while using the same heavy handed militarized police tactics and us vs. them mentality that is problematic with our current state of policing.
The fireflies plan seems to be
- Blow shit up and kill FEDRA
- ???
- Profit.
Yeah this bothered me. Itās been a while since Iāve played the game but I remember spending a lot of time sneaking and hiding from various soldiers waiting for the perfect moment to strike. It was pretty difficult and intense. Joel just went full Leeroy Jenkins and wiped them out in like 45 seconds despite being outmanned and outgunned. At least make it look difficult for FFS.
I still havenāt seen it but literally every HBO seriesā first season Iāve slogged through the past few years has felt like this to me. This 8-10 episode nonsense needs to stop.
Loved him in Bachelor Party
Switched the game to easy for e9
4 Likes
I am all aboard the 10 episode season boat.
What I hate is HBO drawing out the pacing of episodes 3 through 9 to the point you wonder if anything will ever happen and then they kick it up to Fast and Furious pacing in the last episode. Game of Thrones refined this strategy to perfection all the way to that insufferable final season/episode.
3 Likes
A lot of these series should be compressed into a single 2 hour episode imo.
2 Likes
Yellowjackets did this as well. A couple strong episodes to start followed by a dull grind in the middle. I almost bailed on the show but it picked up again in the last two or three and hooked me in for season 2 (Iām an easy mark).
In the case of Yellowjackets they probably would have been better served cutting it down to 6 episodes.
2 Likes
a small takeaway about TLOS
based off of reading this The Last of Us: The HBO showās Season 1 finale makes a disastrous choice.
that has a lot of complaints that are mentioned here, that Joel just mows down people, but I think why the ending didnāt hit as hard as the gameās did was because 20 years ago long form storytelling whose protagonist makes a morally ambiguous choice as the gamesā final act wasnāt as big of a thing in big budget games. It is / was the bread and butter of prestige TV though. So for a game to do that, to have the player invest the hours and then āforceā them to take Joelās course of action and then the put the coda on it on the final cut scene was impactful storytelling for a game, but for a prestige TV show a bit of been there done that.
Thatās not to say it wasnāt a bad show, just how different the endings hit between the game and the TV show.
2 Likes