The Supreme Court: RIP Literally Everything

Supreme Court Justices are subject to federal law

Imagine believing that in the year 2022.

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That’s why Dems don’t want a vote. Their “conventional wisdom” is that this record has no upside but tremendous downside. And they’re on the first level not thinking about Villain and Villain’s downside

Glad more peoplw coming round to the truth that rule of law is a farcical myth

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No it’s not. Not completely and not yet. If it was Trump would have stolen the election. We can’t get so cynical that we think we’re as bad as Russia, or everyone will just stop trying.

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The law is like the social contract about money. Money is “just made up” and has no “intrinsic value”. But if a critical mass of people believes in it, you get civilization because everyone else is forced to go along. The law is the same way.

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Something something habit of obedience to an uncommanded sovereign something something

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Trump isn’t president solely because 2-3 republicans weren’t yet willing to just ignore the law. Those people have been fully run out of the party now and the law will be totally and completely ignored going forward. It has zero force. That’s not hyperbole. Literally zero.

The shibboleth the be republican today is one thing only, was the 2020 election stolen aka were they wrong to follow the law.

You are Russia.

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This isn’t exactly true, the reality is actually worse in the sense that Republicans will continue to successfully pervert the law to their own ends. The law will continue to applied aggressively but asymmetrically. This has been true forever in the US (just ask any black person) but the Republicans are about the use all the tactics of systemic racism to oppress political opposition the same way they have historically oppressed black people. They actually benefit from powerful law enforcement because the cops are fascists on average and because the existence of a farcical legal system makes the eDems waste all their time debating the next impotent procedural move.

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They will follow all the new anti-democratic laws they have written and simply ignore any others.

This is factually incorrect on many levels. Getting sick of posts like this.

I guess ramping up the hyperbole is a substitute for historical analysis nowadays.

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We definitely aren’t Russia, or even that close at this point, though we could definitely could get there.

That being said, saying “we aren’t Russia” and “the rule of law means next to nothing for the rich and powerful” aren’t mutually exclusive statements.

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How many times can we defer to the most dystopian outcome for board cred before it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy?

When I read a post like that I think “I kind of want America to fall so we can see how Canada’s obviously superior governing systems (that are completely independent of the US military obviously) hold up.”

Explain how it’s different. Obviously the surface level nature of the two systems are different. The effect is exactly the same.

You are a nation where there is zero respect for the law by the party who will soon hold all three branches of power.

Your annoyance at this claim seems like bog standard America is great rhetoric.

Is it better to say you are Russia 20 years ago. Sure that’s more accurate. Same thing though.

The fact that you can’t see the infinity of space in between those ideas is amazing.

You do this all the time. You are the most religious poster on this site.

I have no ill will towards you. I was you as recently as two years ago. I was the one making your posts.

The utter failure of your system to deal with the end of your democracy has made it clear to me there is no room for hope.

There is no scenario under the current system that you don’t end up the Russia of today.

Jesus I’m now arguing voting is a waste of time. I spent countless hours fighting the opposite on here and 2+2 for a decade. I’ve spent my entire life volunteering for get out the vote campaigns.

The evidence available today shows I was totally naive and just plain wrong in the context of the US.

I sincerely hope I’m wrong but find it very difficult with current evidence to say I am.

If we are talking Canada then I’m still utterly hopeful and believe the system still basically works. Although there are signs your system is infecting ours to an alarming rate now too

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I live in a mandatory voting country (Australia) and one of the first things I’d do if I became king would be removing mandatory voting. It is a waste of time for a lot of people who aren’t at all represented or supported by big party political systems!

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That’s an interesting one. A few years ago I would have strongly argued against you but see your point now for sure.

I’m still not sure in an overall healthy democracy mandatory voting isn’t a good thing but it’s not the obvious position I once thought it was.

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All right," said Susan. “I’m not stupid. You’re saying humans need… fantasies to make life bearable.”

REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.

“Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little—”

YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

“So we can believe the big ones?”

YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

“They’re not the same at all!”

YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME…SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

“Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what’s the point—”

MY POINT EXACTLY.

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quoted for posterity. This country will be majority poc in the next 20 years. I believe in those people. I’m sorry that you don’t.

If we are talking Canada then I’m still utterly hopeful and believe the system still basically works. Although there are signs your system is infecting ours to an alarming rate now too

The idea that a country could border an allied country that possesses one of the most powerful militaries in world history but also be completely detached from its governing systems is quite the take.