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Nursing homes and assisted living homes are more lethal than a cruise.
Nurses / medical staff die through covid even with the PPE
It’s irrational to think that at-risk populations shouldn’t interact with healthcare workers because PPE isnt infallible? Ok Jan
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wait, so we shouldn’t get takeout now either? asking for a friend, i thought earlier in this people were like support local restuarants with takeout and stuff.
Depends on what level we have set the purity test at
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If you work in assisted living or are still visiting your parents daily for 10 hrs, skip it. Otherwise, you’re good to go IMO
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that’s very responsible of you to not hug coughing and sneezing people. unfortunately people who aren’t coughing or sneezing can be transmitting the virus at a very high rate
sick burn on americans, wow you really showed us
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So here’s the thing… the high risk people are kind of like the first boarding group on a flight on a plane. None of us (being married to my wife means I’m in this group unless I send her to a hotel for 18 months… there seems to be a group of people ITT who probably think I should) are going to fade this thing.
In the high risk group we have healthcare workers like my wife, as well as anyone who has to work in close proximity with other human beings during the pandemic. This absolutely includes the people at restaurants, the people at coffee shops, and grocery store workers. None of us are going to avoid being exposed, probably several times, before this is over. We are drawing absolutely dead.
Then there’s the rest of you. You guys are low risk. People like me should do absolutely EVERYTHING we can do to avoid you. In the grocery store I avoid normal people like I have the bubonic plague and I do everything I can to avoid interacting with you to the point that I’m buying 3 weeks of groceries at a time every time I go. I haven’t spent any amount of time with anyone who wasn’t my wife since mid February. All of this to me is obvious, after all I’m high risk and you guys are low risk. The riskiest thing any of you should be doing in a 2-3 month period is coming within 6 feet of me. I’m very cognizant of that.
The starbucks employees? They, like my household, society has decided are going to definitely get this for the greater good. I don’t personally think Starbucks should have people in it’s drive thru, but since it has those people are already infected in my mind… just like the rest of the high risk people.
In other words I can get coffee, and most of the rest of you fucking shouldn’t. Coffee shouldn’t be essential, but the powers that be have decided that it is and that lives will be sacrificed to get it to me. I’m not adding anything to their 100% risk of infection by interacting with them with a mask and gloves.
Some of you might wonder why I’m wearing a mask and gloves when interacting with these people given everything I just typed. It’s entirely selfish. I’m doing it because I don’t want it to be on me personally when my wife’s workplace goes off like a terrorist bus bombing. I want to be able to tell myself that I took reasonable precautions and that it probably came from somewhere else. It won’t actually matter of course, because the ‘goes off like a bomb’ phase is absolutely inevitable.
At my wife’s work there are aproximately 60 employees of whom maybe 7 make more than 15 bucks an hour. The rest mostly live an hour+ away, have kids who aren’t in school, and have literally dozens of close personal interactions with other people who are in similar situations per day. They aren’t quarantined at all. This isn’t their fault mind you, it’s just a quirk of our system being broken beyond belief and opting to not give a shit about the people who wipe our grandparents asses.
Am I looking at all of this fatalistically? Yes. I think I’m also assessing it realistically and doing my best to cope with the mental health aspects of the situation I’m in. I’ll freely admit that I already (in a cowardly moment) attempted to talk my wife into quitting her job before this thing really went wide. She feels that would be wildly unethical. She’s probably right.
So I’m boarding in group 1B right behind the passengers who work in the ICU. So are the starbucks workers. That would be the case no matter what I did, so I’m going to get my fucking coffee. Thanks for your understanding.
What’s really interesting to me about this thread is how many of you seem to be under the delusion that you aren’t going to get this. JT probably won’t. The rest of you? The rest of you are probably going to get it at some point. Not as soon as I will (probably), but sooner than you probably think. This country isn’t doing anything close to enough to prevent the spread of this thing and we aren’t actually in danger of doing anything close to enough to prevent the spread of this thing… and unless you have the resources to avoid all human contact for 18 months you’re just in a later boarding group than me. Cheers!
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This is a ridiculously long post of you bending over backwards to rationalize your selfish behavior.
Did anybody tell all of the Starbucks employees that you’ve all decided they’re getting COVID, so fuck em?
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Did you know you’re a sanctimonious idealistic prick? Like I’m amazed you’re employable. I’m a pretty disagreeable person myself, but you’re just insanely judgemental.
You honestly think that the world should be the way you want it to be and everyone should act as if. Here’s the thing… they won’t. So most of what you think is righteous is actually pointless.
This, by the way, is also why your favorite candidate lost the fucking primary. He’s as big of an idealist as you are.
Sorry that I live in the real world.
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This statement was aimed squarely at JT who is doing an admiral job of quarantine. We aren’t actually interacting with any human beings outside of her work, the occasional contactless carryout, and the drive thru at starbucks (with mask and gloves… which is more than the rest of the people in the cars are doing I can tell you).
We’re also buying groceries in huge chunks and acting like we have the plague while doing it.
We are however expecting that nothing we can actually do is going to prevent us from getting it.
Fuck me. Looks like everybody is starting to mentally crack on here.
Guess The Trump was right that the cure is worth than the disease.
For the record, I think if you are a high risk group for contracting CV, you should definitely not be going to starbucks or getting takeout.
What if they spend 15 seconds around 40 different people?
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I don’t even know what your point is here. I get the part about how I’m an asshole, but beyond that. Like - I want people to act in a certain way, but they won’t, so it’s pointless for me to say how I think they should act? And that’s why Bernie lost, because he also wanted people to be decent humans?
And you guys should coordinate here - is it ok for nursing home caretakers to get Starbucks because actually there’s a very minimal risk to Starbucks employees in drive through, or because being a Starbucks employee is so dangerous that it is a virtual certainty that they will all get it either way?
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Local beer store is open and just posted on Facebook that they got a delivery of one of my favorite beers. I’m tempted to go, but reading this thread makes me think I’d be an asshole.
FWIW, we’ve been getting takeout twice a week since all this started and I have very little guilt about that. Edit: Mostly delivery, not takeout, but I’m not sure why that would matter.
0 takeout
0 drive-through
0 delivery
I started quarantining before official shutdowns by at least a couple weeks. I’ve had groceries delivered and packages delivered, that’s it. I leave the apartment 1-2 times a week, always after midnight, to take out the trash, get the mail and get any packages that have been delivered. Once I went out to drive the car, and got gas - at like 2am.
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Yeah that’s fair. I had a different context in mind than how most people took it.
I’m grunching…
First of all, fuck Starbucks. If they wanted to give free coffee to medical workers, they could deliver it in bulk. They don’t. They want good PR, and they want to get it with a +EV offer because when they give away a cup of coffee (likely costs them < 10 cents), they’re likely also selling a coffee cake or a breakfast sandwich.
I’m not going to go so far as to call boredsocial and his wife assholes, because I don’t think they are… But I do think they should avoid Starbucks for the good of society. Is it fair to ask medical workers to make more sacrifices than they already are? No, but these are the times we live in and I’m more than willing to buy a few frontline workers who don’t have an at-home coffee maker a coffee maker and their first bag of coffee.
What happens when the barista is doing 40 of these 15 second transactions in an hour or two? That’s a lot of risk all of a sudden.
People need groceries to survive. We will all live without our Starbucks.
Only??? Really?
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