Yeah, the news about long term damage is concerning. Shit just gets worse and worse. I dunno, so I’ve now been convinced that forcing local business owners into bankruptcy to protect their workers is the morally correct choice.
See no way this ends other than in abject disaster.
The restaurants, retail stores, etc. going out of business in mass means state pensions and all kinds of funds across the US go busto as they are directly and indirectly invested in them.
See this article posted by Riverman:
Maybe the US government will just bail all the pensions out. Great, problem solved!
Except the article doesn’t mention it’s not just US pensions, it’s pensions and all kinds of other funds across the world that are exposed to these. Who is going to bail them out? And we haven’t even started talking about governments being unable to service their debt yet.
We are talking the same scenarios and entanglements as the 2008 financial crisis 100x. I sincerely hope that we can just solve it all with this one neat trick of printing unlimited money and handing it out but I’m very concerned, to say the least.
The person ITT in denial isn’t me. I’m in depression lol. Not sure how to proceed from here to bargaining.
McDonalds offering free meals to health care workers. Definitely going to send some lawnmowers into orbit.
why would that send lawnmowers into orbit
Let’s get to the meat of the issue. How do I pose as a healthcare worker to take advantage of these free deals?
Do I just need scrubs? A laminate? What do I need?
Icwudt but Mcdonalds burgers are not meat.
Just kidding 6ix
But they are not and it’s not 100% they are going to get it. It’s people like you who are increasing the probability to 100% and going to infect them. And what for? So someone doesn’t have to brew their own coffee?!?!
Suppose they gave a drive-thru and nobody came?
The military is pissed that they’re no longer getting the attention they used to.
Guess they can try to get it back by talking about that time they fired a gun at a brown person while his family ran away from them.
The one positive thing from this whole mess will be that society might, just might, start glorifying people who do something other than state sponsored violence going forward.
On the other hand I can tell you from personal experience that the nurse I know (pretty well to be fair) has zero interest in being called a ‘hero’. Seems to irritate her quite a bit when random people say stuff like that.
I have never seen that in my life.
Once the military starts bombing Iran, the only healthcare workers we’ll care about will be wearing camouflage in Tehran.
That’s pure rationalization. Not even 100% of nurses who treat COVID patients will get infected but somehow you believe 100% of Starbucks employees will.
I get coffee beans from a cafe about 10 minutes from my flat. I wear a mask and keep my distance from others until I pay.
Even if I was nurse, I’d have no moral qualms so long as I sanitized myself beforehand, wore a mask, maintained social distancing, and the place had a glass barrier between me and the barista. It’d also have to be take away obviously.
In that situation, the barista is more likely to spread to COVID-19 to the nurse rather than the other way around.
That last part is irrelevant. What matters is the total number of cases in society full stop. Both the nurse and the barista are 100% going to be exposed, probably repeatedly, over the next 18 months. There’s actually a pretty strong argument to be made that it’s better for society for the nurse to get exposed ASAP (assuming that you actually get immunity out of it) so that she can be moved to the really crazy part of the front line and take less risk of dying than someone who hasn’t been exposed yet.
The ICU people at the start of this really are the equivalent of the poor bastards sent to Chernobyl. They had/have no immunity and they are being asked to work with high density COVID patients without sufficient PPE. Given the fact that viral load seems to matter a lot of them dying isn’t a surprise. The fact that nurses in the US LOVE to smoke doesn’t help I suspect.
Cause we want people who need ventilators to be nurses, right?
Like I get what you mean, but we’re not supposed to kill off healthcare workers. Their lives are already at risk.
I’m not saying it’s a good thing that they are dying. It’s actually a disaster because they’re the people who are great at running vents. Each one of them who dies potentially kills several more people down the line as less competent replacements take over their duties in the next wave.
Them dying is, unfortunately, kind of inevitable given the fact that the powers that be are fucking idiots who can’t figure out how to mass manufacture PPE and then make sure that they get supplied up to safe levels first.
I’d prefer that nobody interpret anything I say in this, or any other thread in a ‘boredsocial is in favor of this’ kind of light for a while. I’m in full depression, which for me thankfully doesn’t generally include suicidal thoughts. Actually that’s not entirely accurate. I’m fully dissociated into survival mode. Given the fact that I lived in this state almost entirely until I was about ~19 it kind of feels like home weirdly.
In this state of mind I’m generally incapable of caring overmuch about whether anything is right or wrong, merely whether it’s true or not so that I can assess its potential to hurt me and how to run towards it or away from it.
I’m really getting it head on at work too. I’m a work from home logistics guy, who has managed to avoid getting put out of business by this… but I’ve done that by hurling myself back into wrangling trucks for the food supply. It’s pretty grim out there for the trucking companies and I’m interacting with a lot of people who are getting hurt really badly. It kind of reminds me of when I worked retention for a health insurance company in my early 20’s tbh. I’m going to hear these people’s voices in my dreams in ten years or so probably.
On the plus side time has started to speed back up. The time between 3/1-3/30 was aproximately 100x longer in terms of how I experienced time than the last 3 weeks. It’s probably the dissociation. One of the better things about it is that it allows time to pass at a reasonable pace while suffering. I seriously wouldn’t have made it through my childhood without it lol. If I’d experienced growing up at the speed I experienced March 2020 I’d already be dead, in a psych ward, or in prison.
Until you actually get it. Then you roll for damage and after you live or die you’re less susceptible going forward. If you think ‘front line workers’ are going to get through this thing without rolling for damage… you’re not being realistic about how infectious this thing is and how many opportunities they are going to have to get it.
I do still fantasize about my wife’s facility getting hit, her somehow not getting exposed (basically impossible tbh), and then the place getting shut down and her getting unemployment and us sitting out the rest of this thing in quarantine with the rest of you. I think she’s be able to morally accept sitting it out if the place she worked closed. Unfortunately I strongly suspect that they’ll just send the people who have it to the hospital, fill the beds, and keep going while everyone drops like flies. I have no idea how these places can handle taking a COVID hit tbh… the whole thing is just logistically impossible.
Driving food is as essential as anything. No question. Absolutely as essential as health care workers. It’s one of the very most important jobs period.
I hope you pull out of this.
Yeah it’s way more important than most of the businesses deemed as essential up my way. I mean the ice cream stand up the road is open (and busy) which is a joke. Basically any retail that wants to be open has managed to find a way to get considered essential, it seems.