The Presidency of the Joes: more like INFRASTRUCTURE WEAK

[Basic]

Manchin is in a Trump +40 state
Murkowski is in a Trump +10 state

Seems like Republicans should be able to get way more conservative Republicans in both instances.

[JonnyA]

Disagree. Most Rs voting for Manchin don’t care about HR1. Just look at Florida voting to let felons vote by a decent margin. The Rs in power know that HR1 ends their power, but lots of average voters would support HR1 is spun correctly.

Edit: not sure how good this poll is, but shows that majority of Rs support HR1.

67% of Americans Support HR.1 For The People Act

[NotBruceZ]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1369038479552811013

[NotBruceZ]

I’d be interested in seeing polling where people are told that the opposition’s argument is that it helps Democrats and hurts Republicans.

[boredsocial]

Manchin is totally safe as long as he gives the WV political machine enough cover to keep reelecting him.

WV is a one party state and that party isn’t the GOP or the Democrats… it’s a private club run by local oligarchs. Jim Justice is president of that club and Manchin is a lifetime member.

[wheatrich]

https://twitter.com/fake_biden/status/1368346783273787396

[jmakin]

I don’t agree with everything riverman says, but appreciate his takes a lot.

[ViridianDreams]

Also, it’s just a nonsense framing of the situation. A follow-up question would be “how have Republicans been cut out? “ there is no answer, because they are getting plenty, in both bills. This infrastructure bill will be chock full of things that will personally benefit Republicans.

[microbet]

@Vict0ar

He is massively wrong and just parrots demE BS.

He shits on the demE all the time.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@skydiver8

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Bernie Sanders (SenSanders)

As Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, I am proud that we passed the American Rescue Plan, which, in my view, is the most significant piece of legislation to benefit working families in the modern history of this country.

5:25 PM - 6 Mar 2021 55K 6K

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Bernie Sanders (SenSanders)

This package, among many other things, increases direct payments by $1400, extends unemployment benefits, reduces child poverty by half, ensures we are vaccinating as many people as possible, and puts us on a path to safely reopen schools.

5:25 PM - 6 Mar 2021 13K 1.1K

Noted shitlib (checks notes) Bernie Sanders, ladies and gentlemen.

[MrWookie]

I don’t have the skills or desire to spend the time executing this, but I’m envisioning a Pete as Jeb in front of a rainbow-colored US map with 538 votes for Infrastructure.

[mukdukaluk]

His having to do this is why I’d sooner slit my wrists than become a politician

[MysteryConman]

What Bernie says can be true, and the criticism from the left can also be true.

The relief bill gives money to people. But that money was all the people’s money in the first place. Giving us back part of what is rightfully ours is the bare fucking minimum.

Thanks for the band-aid, now let’s address the systemic issues that caused the bleeding in the first place. Calling it “the most progressive” thing ever means little, because “progressive” is so amorphous it can mean anything, progressive has no ideology, instead it’s a buzz word.

[NotBruceZ]

The best way to address those systemic issues is for Dems to make gains in the mid-term elections so the neither Manchin nor Sinema is the 50th vote in the Senate. There’s a gap between what the messaging should be to maximize the chances of that happening and what the reality of the situation is.

Some people can’t properly compartmentalize and talk about the bill differently based on the context.

We have a bill that is simultaneously probably close to as progressive as possible given the constraint of who we have in the Senate, certainly closer than what I would have expected, and also nowhere near close to what we need as a country.

[VoteForSocialists]

@j8i3h289dn3x7

Noted shitlib (checks notes) Bernie Sanders, ladies and gentlemen.

shitlib gonna shitlib (check notes) for Joe Biden

[eyebooger]

@Surf

These discussions remind me how infuriating it is that for example we couldn’t find someone who could keep his dick in his pants to run for senate in NC. Every single senate race these days is just so damn important.

If Ds in FL aren’t scouring the state for someone with Cuban ancestry who is a veteran and now a businessman they should be fired for not trying hard enough.

Dunno about FL, but apparently this guy is running for senate in NC and is everything you want.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jackson_(politician)

Jackson served as a Specialist (E-4) during his year-long deployment to Afghanistan. After returning home from his deployment, Jackson entered the ROTC program to become a commissioned officer. Jackson currently works as a business litigator at Womble Bond Dickinson in Charlotte. Jackson also continues to serve in the North Carolina Army National Guard as a captain in the Judge Advocate General’s Corps.

Jackson faced his first competitive race in 2020. His district had been significantly redrawn and was now a D+2 district, in which a Democratic candidate would only be expected to win by two points. In the final weeks of the campaign, Jackson was called up for National Guard service, preventing him from doing any campaigning during that time. Jackson responded by handing his campaign over to his wife, Marisa, who became the face of the campaign for the closing weeks.[28] Jackson beat Nichols 55% to 41%.

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@MysteryConman

Calling it “the most progressive” thing ever means little, because “progressive” is so amorphous it can mean anything, progressive has no ideology, instead it’s a buzz word.

This is my problem with the whole thing and it’s straight up propaganda. It’s trying to frame a politician or a bill or an issue as the furthest left that can be achieved so don’t you dare even ask for more.

[NotBruceZ]

Shouldn’t they be scouring the state for the Cuban Stacey Abrams?

[clovis8]

Literally every single person on this site, and I have seen online, that has argued the stimulus is a good thing has pointed out its obvious limitations at the same time. 100% of them.

[NotBruceZ]

It might be the furthest left that can be achieved, but we should dare to ask for more. Is admitting the former an impediment to doing the latter? I don’t think it is.