The one hopeful thing we’re seeing is that we’re still drawing live to them basically ignoring norms and doing stuff this next two years. If they manage to get this bill out at 1.9T with the 15 dollar min wage in it I’ll be pretty impressed.
I’ll still be like ‘cool now add senators and do voting rights plz’… but we wouldn’t be on a bad schedule.
Kamala can overrule the parliamentarian as needed. They could also replace the parliamentarian, but I think just overruling her probably makes more sense.
Per Wiki: The role of the parliamentary staff is advisory, and the Presiding Officer may overrule the advice of the parliamentarian. In practice this is rare, and the most recent example of a Vice President (as President of the Senate) overruling the parliamentarian was Nelson Rockefeller in 1975.
I wouldn’t get too high on Mitch in this situation with only 50 senators.
I could see him getting owned by the centrist democrats like he did here, and he had what, 53 senators?
I get that these people are not politically engaged and they’re already mostly democrats but I’ve got to think more than doubling peoples paychecks is about the most impactful thing you could to to gain political loyalty.
That was to try to ram through deeply unpopular legislation that just barely failed, Mitch would be jamming shit with ~70% approval through all day every day if it helped Rs get votes.
Let’s be real for a second. Mitch has absolutely rocked the Democrats since 2008. We can all savor the video of him losing that one time he lost, but we all know that other than that healthcare bill he accomplished almost every goal he had in Washington.
Now to be clear there’s a very real chance that that’s act 1 and 2 of this particular story and what’s brewing for turtle boy in act 3 is ugly. If that’s how it plays out Mitch will go from where he is now, which is the most effective legislator in terms of wins and losses for his team since LBJ to something much much less than that.
At this point the whole Mitch plot arc is about whether he can stick the landing or not. Honestly I think the angle and speed he’s coming in at are pretty tough. Still if he sticks the landing he’ll be a political legend. To do that he has to fade both being the cause of the fall of the American Empire and/or having ruptured the political status quo he was supposed to be keeping steady through artificially steadying it until it cracked from the pressure.
Sure, but he’d still be dealing with a bunch of senators who were opposed to that stuff. I doubt he could get Manchin on board with a ton of that stuff.
Seems pretty clear Schumer is being pretty forceful on pushing big stuff through, and Manchin is pretty clear in that he is not going to go that way.
I mean people here are the ones telling me if we push Manchin too far he will just switch parties.
Mitch had the huge leverage of being able to let a couple of his senators in tough spots like Collins etc vote the other way. When dems literally can’t lose a single vote its a much tougher spot.
In this same spot I don’t think Mitch does a ton better working with these same senators.
Sure but none of that was actually passing bills and governing which was WAY harder. All he did to own the democrats was obstruct which was way easier.
Plus, until now anyways, he had a huge benefit of his voters being single minded in just wanting racism. Democrats are a huge tent with a lot of different views.
Don’t get me wrong Mitch has owned the democrats, but mostly because he had a lot of advantages with who his voters are, that his only goal was to obstruct and stack the judiciary which 100% of his caucus is on board with, and that the democrats were just completely useless washington generals. He isn’t some super great tactician, he just has zero shame with a ton of advantages built in.
When he actually had to pass bills and govern, with 53 or w/e senators, he was 50%.
Yeah, and this is how the Republicans REALLY legislate.
I’ll admit that part is brilliant, because most of the shit they want to do is super unpopular and would lead to them getting killed on the ballots. Plus they can do this 24/7 without worry of losing a house of congress.
The reality is WAAF unless we can get to 53+ senators because they really aren’t going to be able to do all the stuff we need to do with only 50 senators and I don’t really put that on Schumer. Politicians are selfish pieces of shit and are never going to do whats good for the country, they will do what they think is best for them.
These centrist dems in swing states feel they absolutely need to be seen as standing up to the " lefty " democrats and not be fully partisan to win in their states. They’re wrong, but thats how their old out dated decrepit brains think, and should just pass popular shit, but here we are.
And Mo Brooks is interested in the seat. God help us.
Can we get Charles Barkley to run?
Manchin is snap voting against any overt fuck you to the filibuster.
Goddamn I’m gonna be rich.
I think the big own goal will be not passing a Voting Rights Act. It will look so incredibly stupid in hindsight.
Been saying for awhile. I think most of them really get it this time. Like democracy legit on the line. Schumer said as much.
Centrist will still stop us from going anywhere close to where we need though
We need 53 senators for that. Before nuking the filibuster is even a dream
