The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: ORANGE Gettin' PEACHed, Nation Goes BANANAS

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I’m saying 22 Republicans in the Senate have to decide that their political future is better if they vote to remove than if they don’t. If that doesn’t happen, Trump serves out his term. Whether or not he gets re-elected is mostly up to the voting public, not the law.

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Reagan’s approval rating was up and down. It dipped to 35% in 1983. It rose and dipped to about 42% after Iran-Contra. He finished up alright.

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1182723422461317122

It’s like the mob. Once one flips, everybody rushes to save their asses too.

The whistleblowers are probably informing on each other too.

Trying to triangulate you is like trying to triangulate Cory Gardner on whether the Ukraine phone call was inappropriate.

Do you agree that what Trump and Pence have done (in public) is easier to present as impeachable/conviction ready than what Reagan and Bush did?

Reagan and Bush probably had several middlemen to shield them from any actual impeachable crimes who would have willingly fallen on the sword for them. Trump did the crime on a phone call, admitted it, and double and tripled down on it. Pence was the guy doing the actual pressure campaign. He admitted his job was working with the Ukraine president. He refuses to go into the specifics of it, and will not answer simple yes or no questions about it. He also said there is ‘no distance’ between him and Trump on this.

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Yeah but trump said he had the best climbers in the world test out the fence and nobody could climb it.

That makes it at least a 1 Pinocchio.

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I mean I literally said that he was ‘pretty damn popular at the end’. What does that have to do with his poll numbers earlier in his presidency? He was at 35 percent popular right in the middle of his first term, and won the Electoral College in 1984 525-13. This is not remotely equivalent to what’s going on today.

I have no idea if this thing where Trump just openly admits to breaking the law somehow gets him off the hook. It seems to be working in a lot of cases. Do the voters in states with 22 Republican Senators care enough about this? That’s the question.

Fuck his oversized tie

Why do you keep saying 22, are you just openly saying that Manchin and Jones won’t vote to convict?

And again, you avoided my question. Do you agree this is way different than how Reagan and Bush acted? Simple question, seemingly simple to answer.

What’s your point? We don’t know what Trump’s approval rating will be right before the election and we don’t know whether or not he’ll be running against another senile idiot. His approval rating isn’t high, but none of these scandals has caused it to tank yet either.

Just a math error. I looked at the number of democrats and added 22 to get to 67 overlooking the two independents.

“way different” is not a simple question. What does it even mean? If “way different” means something that leads to removal, then the answer is “I dunno, it depends on how 20 Republicans think a vote to remove affects their political careers” and that’s exactly the same kind of calculation that went into impeaching Clinton or any decisions about how far to investigate Reagan.

Maybe y’all are right and Trump/Pence will go down, but it’ll depend on politics.

One of the replies there makes a point I think others have previously made here but I want to bring back up. Trump’s life long modus operandi was to use the courts to bully people. He would tie things up in court until the other side was forced to give up.

However most of his opposition now has the collective resources to see it through and he is inevitably losing. If the court system was not dependent on money trump would have disappeared a long time ago under the weight of losing in court endlessly.

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Does Trump pay all these personal lawyers? He stiffs everyone. Why wouldn’t he stiff his lawyers?

lol, you keep changing the framing of my question into something it’s not. Why are you doing this?

I asked you a simple question about whether you think what Trump and Pence have done (in public) is way different than what Reagan and Bush did (I’ll now add shielded by numerous people who were willing to fall on their swords for them)?

Why is this impossible for you to answer? Trump and Pence have publicly admitted being directly involved in what we know are crimes.

He probably has Russians, Saudis, Exxon, Maduro or someone pay those bills now.

is vague. Sorry, it just is. It’s not a simple question.