I don’t see how what I posted conflicts with various news outlets occasionally doing good investigative journalism.
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I do agree the language is bad, but we should be attacking them from the left for being biased in favor of power and for making access journalism a major part of their strategy.
I don’t know if they’re full of them, but there are plenty. They’re being constrained.
I agree, but I’m trying to start from a very simple and agreeable base position and find agreement and go from there. I do think “enemy of the people” is something we should avoid, perhaps with the exact exception of how you used it (Trump’s right about one thing…).
I can back this up knowing a sports reporter who’s gotten death threats in the era of Trump.
This is disgusting. 98% of journalists are not the ones you’re thinking of. It’s the dude covering high school football for $18K a year, the woman covering local city hall meetings for $16K a year, the TV news anchor in some random mid sized town making $28K a year.
Like Chuck Todd is in the 1/10th of 1%.
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well i guess they are balancing their range after reporting on hillarys emails constantly in 2016 but they still have time to give trump some assists before the election
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Welp, this thread is AIDS today. Good job!
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Here’s a typical journalist. She’s trying to be a champion of the people in her community, and her corporate overlords fired her three days before her wedding from her $36K a year job for speaking out about their cutbacks.
https://twitter.com/AshleyinFloyd/status/1316146289231515648?s=19
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I think when most people on here talk about media they talk about the mainstream media (Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc) and not journalists working for local networks, although I have gripes with some of them too since a lot of local media is being consolidated.
But also what you just posted shows exactly how media sucks, they fired her for being a good journalist and reporting against the powerful. This happens constantly and the way you move up in that industry is by not rustling too many feathers with good reporting that sides with the people
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And this is supposed to be an example of the media being good?
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JFC by “they” I mean national political media, not the rando covering HS football. Does this really need clarification?
The media is a giant part of why this country is an evil shithole descending into dystopia. You’ve all read Manufacturing Consent and I doubt anyone will argue that it has improved since then.
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Oops you accidentally replied to him.
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Journalists and media figures in this country are legitimately fucking terrible at their jobs and largely serve to further entrench corporate power. This is not a right wing derp hysteria site and everyone knew what Riverman meant. The derail is dumb and bad
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RIP?
It seems pretty likely Barr and Rudy both got the Trump virus and are just trying to power-lie their way through it.
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Seriously wtf lol…if you’re one of the good ones, you get fired. QED the media is wonderful
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It doesn’t help that they, themselves, are exclusively for profit entities. I think this falls into the general category of America’s deep seated blind spot for things that are done better elsewhere. It is possible to have a well funded state sponsored media entity that competes with private sector news media. Americans always say oh, no, that can’t possibly work, without knowing anything at all about publicly funded news outside of the US.
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Counterpoint
A CLOUD OVER TRUMPS PRESIDENCY IS LIFTED
Ok, that ad is just a biiiit over the top.
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How hopeless is the institution?
Is journalism bad
- like the GOP says the government is bad
- like Unstuck says the police are bad
- like mayo
- Other (explain)
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Journalism in the US will be hopeless when Trump 2.0’s buddies either buy up or shut down all the dissenting media. As bad as things are right now - Russia has nothing like even CNN - and it makes all the difference.
To me the last two big steps toward fascism that haven’t been crossed yet in the US - are killing dissenting media, and the ability to kill/jail political enemies on command. Once those two things happen, everything else can be leveraged into or out of existence.
Remember how fast neteller went from being defiant to instantly caving just because their ex-founders had to spend a weekend in the federal lockup?
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To explain my “other” vote, coverage of national news by the MSM is a huge positive for the country and we would be a lot better off if the rest of us stopped with the media fragmentation and relied on them. They are the main institution more interested in accuracy than pushing an agenda.