Is she wrong tho?
I’m pretty close to giving up on this country. It’s shameful and I’m not proud but I have zero chance of changing anything and I’m not willing to die so I’m just going to try to enjoy my kids and peace out.
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She’s a grade A bitch but she is not wrong there.
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Uh, she’s undermining the impeachment process, baiting the left into apathy and hatred of both sides. This is not the time to be harping on internal grievances. Shit on the people who aren’t voting to impeach, not the ones who have gotten on board, Jesus. How dumb and tone deaf can you be? We can’t miss an opportunity to shit in anyone who isn’t 100 percent ideologically aligned with your views even when they are doing something we all agree is the right thing to do. You can’t take the small victory, you have to get baited into shitting on the weak coalition we are struggling to keep together in the first place.
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Impeachment isn’t happening. So we should focus on the things the left can actually control.
The Democrats who 100% agree with the Republicans on The Patriot Act and 20 years of war which has killed a million people are not close ideologically aligned with me and I’m not going to celebrate because the people who are maybe 10% better are winning something that isn’t going to make any difference anyway, or it may end up making Trump 2020 more likely.
Half the Democrats tried to put people in jail if they advocated boycotting Israel, but Jill Stein is the authoritarian problem with this country.
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What has Jill Stein done to help the cause? Oh, yeah, she ran a third party campaign in 2016 to split the liberal vote. Then took a bunch of money from the left on a recount that went nowhere. She went to a fucking dinner sponsored by the Russian propaganda outlet and dined with Putin and Flynn, but damn guys, she’s pointing out inconsistent incoherent positions of Dem politicians, and she’s not wrong, guess we have to give her props. NO JUST FUCKING NO. Fuck Jill Stein, shes doing this to undermine impeachment and Dem chances of winning in 2020. You know what privilege looks like? It’s claiming to be a leftist, living under Trump and Republican authoritarian-lite rule for four years and still campaign for the Green Party because you will be fine under Trump.
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She’s an ally to the authoritarians. It doesn’t mean she is authoritarian. It means she takes a look at the political landscape in 2019 and says, the Dems are the ones I need to speak out against in this moment,
Yeah that’s not what’s happening here. Jill made a good point about hypocritical Dems are. That’s it. No one is voting for her.
And stop the Russia stuff. People living paycheck to paycheck don’t care about that.
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Trump will be impeached. He probably won’t be convicted.
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I’m not a big fan of your politics, but you’re not wrong here. Dems need to figure out what Joe Sixpack cares about and focus on that. Spoiler: it isn’t election interference or Trump saying mean things or Trump shaking down Ukraine.
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Holy shit, people living paycheck to paycheck don’t care that some Dems voted to re ew the Patriot Act either. Yes, people are voting for the Green Party. You want to know why Trump’s BS is so effective? It’s because all Republicans fall in line behind him. He doesn’t have Ted Cruz, “well actuallying” him every time he takes an inconsistent position.
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So we should go along with the stuff Dems do that make the country and world a worse place?
Uh, the vote already happened, bro. Why weren’t you talking about that shit before hand? That’s tight, because you don’t care either!
I seem to care more than you since I don’t support it while you do.
I don’t think it’s shameful at this point. Even the best case scenarios have us looking at decades more of this shit.
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I seem to care more than you since I don’t support it while you do.
[/quote] Your evidence that I support the PATRIOT act is what, exactly?
I hate to burst your bubble but showing solidarity with Jill Stein on a political message board isn’t exactly the most effective or convincing way to combat the evils of the PATRIOT Act.
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It’s more effective than saying hey we gotta support the Dems voting for it cuz they’re Dems.