The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Old man yells at cloud, presidential edition.

John Oliver’s bit last night on this administration’s handling of immigration is both depressing and rage inducing.

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You are not giving Jr enough credit. He has had to do most if that stuff.

Has there ever been a time where they have all the votes counted in a day?

Twitter should lock his account for this shit. It is so, so, so bad for the country to have the president tweeting this out.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1320877979858337792
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How live are we drawing to Biden leading the electoral college on and/or having 270 electoral votes on Nov 3? Would be awesome to have Trump suddenly tweeting how every vote has to be counted after months of him screaming about fraud if votes are counted after election day.

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Its gonna depend on Florida. They count fast, so if he has won the state decidedly at 11 PM, it’s pretty much over

I don’t know, but I have a hard time understanding how any judge could make a legal case that votes that haven’t been counted on election night can’t be counted the next day. I think there’s an argument that ballots received after the deadline could be invalidated, and IANAL but ballots arriving on time should be counted and even Trump has not articulated a reason why they shouldn’t be. Meantime, I agree that Florida is the state to watch for on election night.

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Well, the supreme court has something to say about that:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-wisconsin-mail-ballots/2020/10/26/70fa459e-12fc-11eb-ad6f-36c93e6e94fb_story.html

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The Supreme Court just ruled Wisconsin ballots have to be received by election night, but I’m not even sure we know that will help the GOP.

I don’t think anyone is (yet) arguing that counting should stop on election night.

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Kavanaugh gave away the game in his opinion in the WI case, btw (he really is a fucking moron). His justification was that mail in ballots shouldn’t “flip” an election, but of course there is no result to flip until the votes are counted.

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I think rejecting a request to extend a deadline is different than invalidating a deadline which already exists. Most states already have deadlines for when they have to have the votes counted and certified etc. I’m not seeing how Trump can succeed in invalidating those existing laws under such fuzzy logic even with the courts packed full of conservatives.

I can see the logic in the SC saying that deadline is Nov 3rd. It’s like if you have car insurance until 11:59 PM on your policy, you better not get in a car accident at 12:01 AM. I mean it’s stupid logic, but I understand it.

The difference is that I am in complete control of whether or not I am driving a car at 12:01 AM.

I don’t have that level of control as it pertains to exactly when I receive my ballot or how long it takes to get to the polling place after I mail it.

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https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1320883278476398595?s=21

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I don’t see it. The laws for validating the votes are already on the books. It just doesn’t seem plausible to argue after the fact that those laws don’t count.

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Did he lose yet?

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The real question is are we at the point where the SC would do something for purely partisan gain with zero legal justification. I’m not sure the answer to that but let’s not pretend like we aren’t, at best, very close to that and at worst already there.

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Yeah. Not saying it can’t happen. I just think it would be an admission that we are in fact done with democracy as we’ve known it. Even a conservative judge would have to think twice about going there. I guess.

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