Any city in Ohio is worse than any city in Michigan ainec
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Detroit is also the only team to exist continuously in the SB era and never make it. A few HoF players during years of mediocrity arenât that much of a consolation.
Iâve been to both, Cleveland isnât terrible while Detroit is an absolute hole that actually made me fear for my life at times.
Also, hot take â the Browns arenât even the biggest sad sack sports franchise in their own city.
Okay, this one is going to require defending.
I actually did this in one of the grab bag drafts on the other board. (Clippers were first, rest of the top 5 was Lions third, Bills fourth and then the Browns.)
2. Cleveland Indians
They would reach the upper tier of this list for the racist logo alone. But thatâs just the tip of the iceberg for the Indians:
- Theyâve gone 70 seasons without a title (and counting!), the longest active streak in North American sports by far.
- They managed only three winning seasons in the 25 years they spent in the American League East.
- The highlight for a couple of entire generations of Indians fans was the film Major League.
- Theyâre the franchise that brought us this:
Even when theyâve found some success, theyâve managed to break everyoneâs hearts in the end. Consider their four World Series appearances since their last title:
1954: The Indians won an AL-record 111 games, but couldnât even get a single win against the New York Giants. They had a good chance to win Game 1 against the Giants with 2 runners on and no one out in an 8th-inning tie game, but then this happened:
The Indians failed to score, and the Giants won in extras and ended up sweeping the series.
1995: The Indiansâ first pennant in over 40 years, only to go down in history as the only team to lose a World Series to the Atlanta Braves in their 14 consecutive postseason tries.
1997: The late-90s Indiansâ second kick at the can ended in absolute heartbreak, as with a 2-1 lead in the 9th inning of Game 7 against the MarlinsâŚwell, I found this online which sums things up pretty well:
If you say the words âJose Mesaâ to any Indians fan who watched that game, youâll probably see a visceral reaction akin to being punched in the stomach.
Mesa was unequal to the task, allowing the tying run that would allow the Marlins, a five-year-old franchise at the time, to win the World Series and push the Indiansâ drought to 49 seasons.
2016: The Indians would again lose an extra-inning Game 7, becoming the first team to lose a World Series to the Chicago Cubs in 108 years.
Someday, maybe, some team will go down as the first team to lose a World Series to the Indians inâŚhow many years? 80? 100? About 350? No matter, theyâre still baseballâs worst.
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Appreciate the effort, but not sure I can be convinced that Browns fandom is worse.
Cleveland definitely wins for worst city to be a sports fan in overall though. Even though Lebron got them a title, that was one title in 11 seasons vs 3 titles in 7 seasons so far for other teams. 1-4 in NBA Finals for Cleveland 3-2 outside of Cleveland.
I voted for Cleveland fans over Detroit fans because Cleveland fans actually lost their team and watched it win a Super Bowl (on top of everything else).
Atlanta might have them beat.
Happy to have an excuse to post this
https://twitter.com/BeforeFamePics/status/793118931460448256?t=4wOuj5EYorvU2j5fRwoz8A&s=19
Poor old Cortland Finnegan!
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Never been to Cleveland but i went to Detroit last month for the first time and didnât mind it, didnât see much beside the dowtown/financial area but it seemed fine. Had some cool architecture/buildings at least, and sports betting/legal weed.
Thatâs a bit of a hot take considering theyâre the reigning MLB champs.
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By the way, back to âmost iconic NFL photoâ or whatever, I think itâs either âThe Catchâ or this:
Completely forgot about that.
San Diego have a case? MLB team usually sucks and lost NBA and NFL teams to Los Angeles (a city that already had a team in those leagues).
What about Cincinnati? Reds havenât done anything for three decades, and then thereâs the Bungles.
since the reboot, the Browns have only won one game in week 1 of the NFL season
and it wasnât 2020 they lost that one too. The fanbase couldnât pretend they were competitive past week 1.
2004 was the last time the browns started a season with a victory. Of course they started 3-3 and ended up 4-12.
Currently Iâd go Browns over the Lions in the sadness meter, they tie with winless seasons, Lions waste all time RB and WR, Browns waste all time OT, Browns fire BB then BB goes on to crush, Browns were the last pick of a QB before Brady went off the board. 80âs heartbreaks. All the QBâs
Lions not much since 57, lost a game 19-17 on a new NFL record long field goal, twice.
Both have lost games in manners that if you asked what team lost them, youâd have picked them.
Fun debate, Iâd lean Cleveland at least Detroit had some interesting other teams at times.
Bungles not winning in the playoffs but constantly getting there doesnât seem like it can be all that low to me.
This is more non football, ie the owner has fucked over the city for 30+ years.
Closest we got to a championship in this millennium.
Made the super bowl in 96 and were 18 point underdogs and got smoked.
Nobody Iâm good friends with is a chargers fan any more. We all still watch tons of football but donât care about chargers games. The only people who are still fans are people who moved away from San Diego before they moved and donât have anyone to tell them how stupid they are.
Padres have had like 2 playoff appearances since I graduated high school and we got single handed destroyed by Albert Pujols both times. I remember because I was there.
San Diego #1 all time best weather though, so at least we got that going for us, which is nice.
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I think you need a minimum of 3 major sports teams to be in the discussion.
So places like Jax arenât in the running.
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Hawaii though