The Manchurian Post Up - NBA hard in the paint for sweet sweet renminbis

https://twitter.com/SamHustis/status/1182469667270488064?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1182469667270488064&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.realclearpolitics.com%2Fvideo%2F2019%2F10%2F11%2Fsteve_kerr_people_in_china_dont_ask_me_about_mass_shootings_i_dont_ask_them_about_chinese_human_rights_abuses.html

It feels filthy to be on the same side as Tucker Carlson and the shut-up and kneel crowd but is this anything but disgraceful?

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In a shocking turn of events, a man with a high school degree who bounces a ball for a living shits the bed when asked a political question that is loaded.

Not his fault - the fault is in people thinking his opinion on the topic has any more value than a pig farmer from Assknuckle Arkansas. It’s like asking me a question about the way to structure a zone defense in the NBA - how the fuck would I know, and why would anyone care what I think about the topic.

MM MD

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https://mobile.twitter.com/sbanjo/status/1184070619693907968

LBJ comes off bad because he just wanted Morey to wait to say anything until they were home. It makes him look pretty tone deaf, because a whole lot of people’s lives are affected by this, and he basically seems more worried about his ā€˜PR’ than anything else.

The other thing is that if anyone should be taking heat it’s the NBA for wanting the complicated relationship (every person asked about this is essentially an employee of the NBA and it puts them all in a bad spot). But they knew what’s been going on there way before they entered a partnership. As always, it’s about money.

And I know it’s hard to believe, but a lot of the consumerism that’s been going on for years in China may lead to a different outcome in China than what’s expected based on past behavior. No matter what anyone says, China doesn’t want to be thought of as ā€˜the bad guys’ based on how much they’ve embraced western consumerism in the abstract (even if not completely in practice). That movie Red Corner is probably the closest allegory to what’s going on today, even though it’s not particularly relevant in comparison.

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1184182192236310528

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Listen to the Kerr clip too, I’m sorry but that’s a horrible answer that wipes out ~80% of his credibility speaking about other issues. Nobody in China asks him about AR 15s? This is some Jordan Peterson clean your own room before you voice one criticism of the world style bullshit.

I mean Kerr literally pulled a Jack Ritter here:

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I agree. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to just say something like ā€œIt’s a very unfortunate situation and I hope that it can all be worked outā€. Useless bland nonsense is sometimes the best answer.

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Even ā€˜It’s an extremely complicated issue I don’t fully understand, and not something I feel comfortable weighing in on’ is an acceptable response.

I’m not really sure why anyone thinks athletes/coaches should be completely ready to answer really heavy policy questions almost no one in the public eye wants to answer period, in the spur of the moment.

Lebron knows exactly what he’s doing. No offense hobbes but he’s a very savvy operator who has absolutely revolutionized making money as a basketball player.

As to anyone who is saying he’s going to lose money on this… yeah not a chance. He’s about to sell a metric fuck ton of sneakers in China. He’s basically bulletproof with fans here and is giving the NBA cover by taking heat while simultaneously helping Nike out in China.

He’s usually a pretty good guy, but this was probably a number followed by a lot of zeroes that he can just claim ignorance on later if it goes really sideways.

There’s zero chance he hasn’t been preparing a China answer with his small army of personally loyal advisors (because he hires competent people from good schools at the start of their career so that they are utterly dependent on him) since this whole thing started. That high school grad who bounces a basketball for a living is a basketball mogul with a professionalized organization who has been insanely famous/rich/powerful for a very long time. And he basically hasn’t made a single misstep that I can spot so he’s probably just done the optimal thing again.

Remember that at basketball and running his own career the man is a fucking genius. There’s almost no chance he’s wrong here. He might lose out, but that’ll be variance not because it was the wrong move.

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We’ll disagree then. I’m not hypnotized by the fact that someone who is good at playing basketball is a political wizard, any more than I’m going to take Jenny McCarthy’s advice on vaccination policy. The number of celebrity fuckwits running off at the mouth about shit they know nothing about is limitless, and the fact that he has handlers telling him what to say means fuck all, if he takes it into his head to spout off. Steve Kerr, who is a VERY bright guy, didn’t do much better than Labron, and I’d guess it’s because no matter how sharp you are or how many shrewd handlers you have, answering questions on the fly can be tricky.

And, it isn’t like he handled the whole ā€œtaking my talent’s to South Beachā€ all that well, either - but since people have the attention span of a cloud of gnats meant it blew over after a while, because he’s somewhat likable. So I’m not buying the Wiley Coyote super-genius narrative. He’ll likely be fine with it in terms of his personal situation, but he would have been better off dodging the issue. And I don’t even know what the variance comment is supposed to mean - but I’ll chalk that off to this being a refugee colony from the old plane.

MM MD

Has exactly nothing to do with politics and everything to do with business. And he’s right on that front. The China comments by Morey were definitely bad for the NBA. They wanted no part of any of this. They (like all our entertainment businesses) wanted that sweet Chinese money. Lebron wants to sell sneakers in China and talking about HK is pretty bad for that.

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I agree with you 100% on this post, and Morey fucked up.

Perfect example, too, about how anyone with an IQ above room temperature should treat Twitter like a live grenade. (Trump, of course, has no worries on this count)

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My main issue with this fiasco is that the Chinese State wants to participate in the world stage, be linked into pop culture, video games etc, but they don’t want anyone to be able to talk any shit about them. That’s not how this works. People shit on the USA all the time. Get over it and grow up.

Blizzard Activision for example makes approximately 10% of their revenue in Asia and wants to bend over sideways for a country they don’t even make a significant amount of money in. WTF…

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Their thinking: 10% now, 80% in 10 years

It’s like asking me a question about the way to structure a zone defense in the NBA - how the fuck would I know, and why would anyone care what I think about the topic.

What about the amoeba defense? Know anything about that?

This whole thing looks absolutely pathetic. Have to consider all of the league’s progressive virtue signaling fake as fuck now. Don Sterling was a business decision.

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Not NBA, but more blizzard news. Blizzard canceled a launch party for Overwatch for the Nintendo Switch because of continuing backlash.

Also a large boycott is scheduled for the upcoming BlizzCon.

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You should have been doing that already. Indeed, going forward you should assume that every public-minded statement from any company, politician or celebrity has ~zero evidentiary weight about their values unless it’s unpopular.

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I’m not really talking about actual held values (because I know the owners have none) but more like ones they are quasi-bound to through business decisions. The NBA rides its goodwill on social justice hard as a profitable intangible asset, so (some of) their profit motive is aligned with actually championing those causes. It gives them access to markets, partnerships, favorable media coverage, etc., that the NFL couldn’t get. Obviously it blocks them from some of those things too. My point is that kowtowing to China should incinerate that goodwill. I don’t think they really understand it given how dumb the responses have been. They’re gonna try to play both sides and I’m saying ā€œYou don’t give a fuck about [black] peopleā€ is the correct pressure to apply domestically.

Suddenly, the tables were turned: The NBA, a new-media darling for its social justice advocacy, played the soulless corporate spin machine, while the NFL enjoyed ever-massive ratings, continuing its quiet getaway from the years of bad press incurred by its crackdown on the Colin Kaepernick-inspired national anthem protests.

But it’s not surprising that those most disappointed by Silver’s fumbling on the China issue are the NBA’s die-hard fans. Since he took over the league in 2014, the new commissioner has built its virtuous reputation to the point where the New York Times ’ Bari Weiss was able to justifiably needle ā€œThe World’s Wokest Sports Leagueā€ this week for its obsequiousness to an authoritarian, borderline-genocidal regime.

What the NBA’s demoralized boosters have largely overlooked, however, is a critical truth about its reinvention: Its liberal attitude isn’t just good for its fans’ consciences, it’s good for business.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/12/nba-china-hong-kong-229848

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Yeah saw this as well. Same type of both sidesing. No one is surprised that the corporate masters are greedy. It’s not understanding that this would cause huge backlash and negative PR that’s the oh_wow.gif.

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