The Invisible Man (2020)

Interstellar was amazing on my first watch. Pure film experience. All the criticisms of its lack of reality only come upon later obsessing.

But yeah, looking back, soundtracks really dictate how much you like films even tho you can spend much of your life not thinking about it.

Fuck, now I might have to watch Dark Crystal today.

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I highly recommend “The House At The End Of TIme.” It’s free on Tubi. Can’t really talk about it but if you like horror and suspense its worth a watch.

Going to watch “Upgrade” later tonight. Looks like a gem. :nerd_face:

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This seems like a really bad idea.

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As bad an idea as making a Blade Runner sequel…until Denis was the director. And I say that noting my immense relief when we found out it would be him instead of Ridley Scott directing the sequel.

Yes, an Escape sequel is a bad idea in general, but in the hands of Denis or Leigh, let them make whatever they want.

It doesn’t sound like a sequel, it sounds like a remake or reboot or whatever we’re calling these things now.

Either way, the bad idea part imo is having it be set in New York. The original was about that city at the time the movie was made, at its nadir of urban decline, when the portrayed future didn’t seem all that far fetched.

That New York doesn’t exist anymore, so there’s no obvious way to have a remake that echoes the earlier while also being a reflection on contemporary society. The only reason anybody wants to escape from New York these days is high rent.

Maybe it could work as a comedy. The president is forcibly confined to Park Slope as a stay-at-home dad while his wife works 80 hour weeks on Wall Street. Snake Plissken is sent in to rescue him in time for a G-8 meeting, and has to contend with gangs of hipsters driving artisanal toast food trucks.

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L’esprit de l’escalier:

Escape from New York prequel would be the shit. I wanna know about Snake flying the Gullfire over Leningrad. Amazon or Netflix needs to make this a TV show right now.

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Ah that is my bad. A remake/reboot, not a sequel.

You convinced me. This is a bad idea. But this is Leigh Whannell, so I’m willing to put some faith in the guy. If this is what he decided to make next, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he has an idea worth turning into a movie.

Starring Nicolas Cage or I’m out

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Holy shit, Invisible Man was way more intense than I expected. Absolute must-watch. Elizabeth Moss’s character is the most legitimate heir to Sigourney Weaver’s Ellen Ripley that I’ve ever seen.

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Did you watch the trailer first? I accepted how intense the movie was for me when it came to the scene where she’s in the attic and throws the paint. Like, that moment is spoiled in the trailer and I still screamed like a little zikzak

Upgrade was good. This is a dark story.

The way you’re caressed with the protagonist’s affable antics really sets you up for the stone cold horror of the AI revealing itself. Did make me wonder what the point was if it already had that much autonomy and control. I need to watch it again.

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https://collider.com/leigh-whannell-ryan-gosling-wolfman-movie/

This was a great movie that got hosed due to the fact that it was released right when the pandemic hit. You can catch it on streaming.

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The Invisible Man gets very high praise itt (wtg search function), and I have to agree. Finally caught it a couple of nights ago and damn that was some great sci-fi horror.

Had not been eager to see it because I ran into something around the time it was released that positioned it as an allegory for the plight of domestic violence victims, and haven’t been in the mood for something that felt like homework. While the opening scene is literally a victim of domestic violence running from her tormentor, the movie is definitely thought provoking, as most great movies are, but doesn’t feel like homework and I’m annoyed I let that get in the way of catching this sooner.

The restaurant scene completely messed me up and really showed how amazing Moss is. She doesn’t have dialog for long stretches while she is on screen but she’s saying so much you can’t turn away.

I’m a little more bothered by the ending than some have mentioned. Someone already pointed out that there would be no way Adrien wouldn’t know a suit was missing and be prepared accordingly. My bigger issue tho was after Adrien uses the knife and falls on the floor, we watch him for a moment until a footstep appears in the carpet. IMMEDIATELY after the footstep appears, Moss comes running out of the bathroom.

My spot on theory: the way that scene was edited has to mean Moss didn’t kill him. Someone else was in the house with the suit on. She wouldn’t have been strong enough to use his arm like that anyway.

Great movie. Check it out.

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Well said, King.

I love that the movie leaves itself open to so many interpretations. When interviewed on the ending, the star Elizabeth Moss had this to say on her own interpretation:

[Moss] plays Cecilia, the abused wife of the titular invisible man – but if people had asked Moss, “Are you the Invisible Woman?”, well, the answer is a bit more involved.

Over the course of the movie, Cecilia’s sanity is constantly called into question by those around her – who go so far as to have her locked in an institution – and even when she finally confronts her invisible attacker and removes his mask… it’s not Adrian, but his brother. Adrian, we’re told, was being held captive in his own basement the whole time and controlled by said sibling.

Cecila refuses to believe this, though, and, wearing a wire, goes to Adrian’s house with the intention of convincing him to admit what he’s done. When he won’t confess outright, she leaves the room, puts on the second invisible suit she’d stowed away earlier in the film and returns unseen to slit Adrian’s throat. Cecilia exits with the suit and closure that it had, in fact, all been of his doing.

But if viewers don’t listen carefully – to Adrian’s purposeful use of the word “surprise” – you may leave the theater wondering whether Adrian really was innocent or if Cecilia was, once again, being gaslit.

“Well, what did you think?” Moss countered inquisitively when asked how she interpreted the ending. Naturally, we believe Cecilia. “And that was important to us to map out really carefully. There’s a small period when she thinks, ‘Am I crazy? I could be wrong about this.’ Then we very carefully put things in place so you are with her, so you believe her through the story, so you’re on her side, so you know that she’s right.”

“For me, I wanted it to be something cathartic, something where the audience could walk away feeling like there was some sense of catharsis and victory,” director Leigh Whannell weighed in. Jackson-Cohen, meanwhile, is glad to play into the ambiguity. “It is about gaslighting and so we wanted to do it as honestly as possible and this is how people like that operate… That’s what is ultimately so terrifying about Adrian, there is not a single part of him that can be trusted.”

Have you seen the director’s other movies, eg Saw, Insidious, Upgrade.

And of course I’m so hyped for his next two movies:

  1. a similar contemporary reimagining of The Wolfman based on an original pitch from Ryan Gosling in the veign of Jake Gyllenhall’s Nightcrawler (that is subject to change…)

Ryan Gosling’s new project is said to be about an anchorman who ends up becoming the famed werewolf and creates havoc, only to return to his day job to report on the happenings.

  1. A SEQUEL TO THE INVISIBLE MAN YASSSSSSSSSS
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Good articles. Thanks for posting. We should change your sn to SpoilerFlush tho.

I haven’t seen any of the director’s other stuff but I’ll certainly make a point of it now. You recommend an order to watch them?

I apologize if you are serious as I hate being spoiled but perhaps presume too much given how often the movie has been discussed on the forum. Would you prefer I spoiler my last post?

I think it perhaps time to move posts on the movie into a dedicated thread. There is still so much to say, and it would be good to have a place where spoilers can be forgotten :+1:

I am much more a fan of psychological suspense and sci-fi than I am horror–though I do love horror! So for me, the order is:

The Invisible Man
Upgrade
Saw 1
Insidious 1
Saw 2, 3
Insidious 2, 3, 4

I haven’t seen his other stuff but am very interested in Dead Silence about a deadly talking ventriloquist doll and Cooties, which has a great cast and is primarily comedic. I’m guessing it’s hilarious since the best comedic actors tend to also be the best dramatic actors. Look at the most recent Halloween, written by Danny McBride after he was most famous for biting satire like Pineapple Express and Eastbound & Down. But he knew just when to release the tension with the right amount of humor so he could bring us back to the very edge of terror.

You might also want to explore the movies by James Waan, with whom Leigh co-created the Saw and Insidious franchises.

Not at all. It’s been out for a while so I think it’s fair game. There hasn’t been that much posted in here about it though so I’m not sure it would stand as its own thread. Maybe one for the director?

And thanks for the list. Glad I started with the right one.

Surprise

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I will pull all of the posts. You might be surprised how much we have discussed the movie since release…