This is more than 5 years old and it was already a joke back then. I bet this time is different!
Fuck no!
My bet is not looking good
It never was. When is he supposed to be charged by for you to win?
Iâd have to look it up. Itâs documented ITT. The bet I believe was within 1 year and we made it not more than 2 months ago
Itâs really polarized where Garland is concerned. Heâs either made the decision not to prosecute under any circumstances, or heâs teeing it up to thread the needle and it will be a surgical prosecution never seen before
But even if Garland falls thru, I still have Fani Willis who I have no doubt has the courage and will to follow thru. Thereâs also the chance that some other jurisdiction will indict, so all my hope doesnât rest on Garland
As an aside, why is it that women seem so much more courageous than men when it comes to this? Would Trump have been indicated under Sally Yates if she were AG?
It doesnât matter at this point. Even getting to trial by the 2024 election is unlikely now, let alone all the appeals.
An over generalization, but I think a lot of women and especially women of color are more clear eyed about âthe systemâ and itâs imperfections. Compared to older white dudes like Garland they might not have as much reverence for norms and doing things a certain way just because itâs the way they have always been done.
[Eta: also note that James and Willis are elected officials in blue areas, and have aspirations for higher office, which could make them more likely to follow the desires of their voters, while Garland isnât likely to be running for anything]
Yates is an interesting question. On the one hand, she definitely showed some backbone when she resigned. On the other hand, I could see her previous experience with Trump might make her reluctant to pull the trigger (b/c it could look like a retaliatory prosecution). Also, she currently works at a law firm that has hired a ton of former Trump admin officials like Gina Haspel and Rod Rosenstein. So, sheâs clearly not a Trump fan, but I think she also buys into rules and norms and respect for institutions⌠So IF she prosecuted I think it would be based on a slam dunk case and sheâd really to try to have all her ducks in a row before moving forward.
So how does this play out going forward? Trump skates on it all and then when Republicans gain control, they unabashedly impeach and charge crimes to every Democrat under the sun from now until the end of time? Or until weâre no longer a democracy and they donât have to? And we the people just continue looking on in horror? This is straight out of a bad movie
The âwe the peopleâ people are fine with it all. Theyâre about 45 percent of the population.
Yes, we will have permanent minority rule. Itâs astonishingly obvious when you look at it rationally.
Republicans will have the House for 2024. There is simply no way a Republican House certifies a D president ever again. Theyâre quite honest about this.
On top of that, republicans have all the state legislatures that matter and will never give them up (see Wisconsin for the blueprint and aftermath, the D governor canât govern at all). Gerrymandering will not be stopped by the Supreme Court, which will accomplish everything the GOP canât do legislatively.
Otherwise smart people seem to think it wonât happen simply because it hasnât yet. The Republicans are quite eager to tell everyone how this is going to go, but libs simply wonât listen.
We arenât special. This has happened a million times other places and now itâs going to happen here.
Do you really think thatâs the case? Or is it that they are oblivious to the peril this nation is facing?
Maybe itâs 40 percent. Yes, have you been paying attention? Personal economic comfort and protection of privilege is way more important to that subset than anything else.