I refer you back to the image of the white and colored water fountains from 60 years ago.
We’ve gotten past tough times before.
It does feel hopeless right now because of how much communication there is between deplorables and the amount of misinformation circulating on social media and the trio of tv channels. I’m just hoping we find a way forward, but we don’t agree on the basics: equality, global warming, science, diseases, morals, humanity, healthcare, worker conditions and pay, sacrifice for greater good, etc. It’s really hard to see what brings us together when a half million dead doesn’t.
30% of the country thinks the election was stolen and thinks Trump inciting an insurrection is ok and not impeachable.
This is an op-Ed by the Fox News guy who called it for Arizona. It is not a scintilla of a mea culpa. In fact he said he was sacrificed because modern news is controlled by the craven demands and wishful desires of their audiences. He was scapegoated by Fox News because Fox News tried to report news and not just reinforce its audience’s world views.
I still have seen no evidence he was wrong in that call and he is clearly not wrong about the modern news and how it functions.
I dunno I’ve heard that said a bunch of times, but I don’t see how even if it’s not called, Trump still comes out with that 3am presser about how THE VOTING NEEDS TO STOP and then the states are all still like “yeah no.”
Since nobody really knows and we’re making up our narratives mine is the guy knew Trumps plan, like all of us did, and made the call early as fuck to thwart it.
As such, it was a great call. We should make a statue of this guy.
If not for the AZ call it is plausible, although still super unlikely, that maybe we get the insurrection attempt early and his followers go hard at counting places in PA/WI/GA etc.
Meh probably not, but if his plan was to try and direct violence at these places saying he won and they’re stealing it and to do something about it, the AZ call would have absolutely fucked up that plan.
But yeah we’re lucky he’s dumb and not super committed, the next Nazi guy could absolutely do that though. Although the option is unlikely to come around again because I assume most places with big republican legislatures will go HARD on getting Republican governors and ban mail in voting except for olds with an excuse or some shit.
Capitol storming could have immediately happened to counting locations instead.
Anger of mob directed at Fox News, and confusion as to whether they wanted the count stopped because Trump was winning or continued because Trump was losing, may have paralyzed them just enough.
I doubt you’ll see a situation like that again though. Most of these states have strong republican majorities so I expect mail in voting to basically go away and the supreme court to help them do it well before the election
We’ve made tremendous strides in the last 60 years. I was shocked to see video of how bad the riots were back then. I suppose every generation feels like the last one left them doomed, but I can’t help wonder if it isn’t finally true. There are just so many imminent threats facing us. You mentioned most, but also forgot a few like wealth inequality and what I feel is one of our biggest problems… The ease with which disinformation is spread. On the one hand, I would think it was easier to spread disinformation when people were literally cut off from the rest of the world. So am I even right to think that it’s so much worse now?
We now have groups of people living under a set of completely different realities. One in which people look at a 5-6 time bankrupted failed businessman who possesses zero class or dignity and is just an all around vile human being and thinks, “Yeah, this is the guy I want running things”. And another group who couldn’t imagine a more unfit person for the job if they tried
This is possibly a subject for another thread, but something needs to be done about the dissemination of misinformation and I’m not sure what the answer is. I’m an ardent supporter of the constitution (who also thinks there’s a reason it allows for amendments). Navigating 1A issues is a slippery slope, but it’s painfully obvious to me that we need some regulation when it comes to social media and TV
It’s also a very scary thought to let them regulate themselves. I was all for Trump being de-platformed, but NOT by the platforms themselves! Someone else needs to make that call. Otherwise, we’re in the very dangerous situation where the information we’re allowed to access to will be controlled by a handful of people (isn’t it already the case that newspapers and TV stations are all owned by just a few people?).
There needs to be a regulatory body such as the FCC that fines the living shit out of stations like Fox News for every intentional propogandist lie they back up on air. Maybe there’s a different way. I don’t have the answers. But this seems to be one of the bigger problems we face. People should be allowed to discuss their conspiracy theories and whatnot or express their disdain. But we have to get back to a place where people can agree on REALITY. Calling a white wall purple and having 30% of the population agreeing with that statement is NOT ok
It’s interesting how they know that the more people who vote, the more likely they are to lose and they’re not even shy about their desire to suppress the votes any more
Yeah I’ve had several traditional never trumpers straight up say only people with money should be able to vote, people who own homes etc.
The whole stolen election thing will give them cover to do voter suppression not seen since reconstruction. Worse than even before the voter rights act. It’s why its absolutely mandatory Dems get a new voting rights act in while they still have power.
If they don’t, it’s pretty much GG democracy. Dems will never win in GA again, and once Republicans win the Governorship in PA/WI/MI they will never win those again either. And they will go super hard on winning those and dems won’t because they are incompetent and won’t see it coming.
It is different. In 2008 McCain was still willing to take the mic from brainwashed lady and tell her no, actually, Obama is not an “Arab” terrorist. In 2021 the Republicans are actively egging those people on and the crazy brainwashed people are even getting elected to Congress.
