Isn’t that kind of standard? LIke, if she lives with her parents… I don’t know, I don’t have teenagers (yet), but most of my friends who do insist on having the passwords to their social media accounts to make sure they’re not going to get abused not he internet, etc.
Or her parents just made her take it down? I mean she’s 15 and probably lives with them?
if anyone cares, this is the sequence of posts between them starting with the OP (which was goofy shifting a derail from the President thread)
^^that post got 18 likes
^^and this one got 11 likes
he wasn’t actually saying you were equating the two and no one thinks that you were. It was a joke. And the only reason so many people hearted the post was because of your over the top reaction to a single heart being awarded to it. I scrolled by the frankly unremarkable post initially until I saw your reaction, then scrolled back up to like it based on your heart-induced case of the vapors. Again, a joke, and a bit mean spirited, but no more so than breaking a buddy’s balls in real life. No one meant anything by it.
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Yeah maybe he should reread this
I don’t like begging people to stay, but i hope you do. It is a mean place (and you’re often mean). No one is immune. I have several people on ignore just because they were aholes to me and I didn’t want to get into it with them.
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I don’t think any of the parents I know have the passwords of their teenage kids and if they have insisted on it it’s overwhelmingly likely that their kids have accounts that they don’t know about.
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A lot of my younger cousins have public social media accounts and then private ones that only their friends know about which they keep hidden from their parents and other adults
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I doubt my kids do, but then I don’t spy on them. I get to actually ask them about stuff and usually, eventually, I hope find out about problems because they trust me.
Eta: they surely do have accounts I don’t know about, probably even on platforms I’ve never heard of…but that’s not the same as a secret.
It seems like you have a good relationship with your kids (at least one of them knows about this place and made an account here!) and most of the kids that do the second private account don’t seem to have the most open relationship with their parents from what I’ve seen. Also their parents are super restrictive towards what they can do so I’m guessing this is one of their ways they go against that
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First, addressing the thread title: The Ethics of Teenage Political Opinions… no way we should exclude such opinions here.
In the US, legal minors have full 1st-A rights. Minors can wear political shirts to public schools. Minors can assemble on the streets. One thing that really makes us activists livid is that the cops employ their violent means, which chills attendance by children, old folks, etc/etc. If they are working for wages they can join the IWW. A couple of years ago a HS Junior and me comprised the social committee of the SD GMB.
As for re-posting family breakup stuff… we really don’t want to be doing that regardless of the ages involved, now do we?
As for the Conway kid… her parents can muzzle her if they want. Any family breakup stuff (if any) we really (I hope) don’t want to repeat here, but again, that shouldn’t be aged based. In general however… that family is a buncha grifters, and there’s no reason to believe they aren’t all in on it, including the kid.
I do.
OK, I’ll backtrack on this one point.
If it’s news (and the Conways breaking up their marriage would indeed be news) it’s fair game. In those newsworthy cases, I can see folks not wanting to have repeated what the children personally had to say about their family’s breakup, while they were still children.
Y’all are weird
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I don’t know if they are all “in on it” but there is no doubt in my mind that this is the exact kind of thing that social media exacerbates.
The more attention she got the more her brain receptors loved it and it just continues.
I could see her writing a “tell all” book, making millions, and still having thanksgiving dinner with her family.
As for how these apps are shaping adult brains vs brains that are not fully developed will be studied and debated for years to come.
Well that’s terrifying.
My next post kind of went into why I think that is. The parents who have pretty good communication and openness with their kids don’t seem to have that issue, it’s more with the parents that are very restrictive towards their kids. Obviously my sample size is extremely low but that’s what I gathered from talking to my cousins and knowing how some of my friends were when we were teenagers
Clovis, I like you. You are one of my favorite posters here. I just checked my stats and I’ve hearted more of your posts than anyone else’s. No one thought you were equating statutory rape with retweets. It was mostly a reference to the very recent discussions in the Epstein thread and yes an observation that it was a bit weird that you were trying to use the same type of arguments - “she’s a child, she can’t consent.” In any case, it wasn’t a serious accusation, and I don’t think the responses were at all an indication of a lack of standing or respect in the community.
I don’t know if it’s covid, the protests, the upcoming election, or just politics discussion on the internet in general that’s creating so much tension lately, but I really do think we need to try to have a thicker skin about it. This forum was explicitly created so that we can say what we want without the need for heavy moderation or civility. I know if I post something that the majority disagrees with, I will get a harsher reaction here than on 22 (probably less harsh than on twitter though). In some ways the mob mentality is bad if people get shouted down or become afraid to post controversial opinions, in other ways a bunch of people that I respect telling me I’m an idiot can be useful for getting me to self-reflect. Pile-ons can be better and more effective than throwing out bans and policing threads.
Anyway, just wanted to say that I consider you an extremely valuable member of the community and often one of the few divergent, unique voices. While healthy breaks from the madness of politics are good and probably necessary, I don’t want you to leave. This also applies to anyone that I’ve gotten into a heated argument with on this site. It’s all love. 
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For young people, there is an aspiration to go viral and become famous on YouTube or Twitch or Instagram or TikTok or whatever the next platform is. Claudia demonstrated this with a tweet with a poll asking if she should start a YouTube channel or a podcast. This aspiration has replaced dreams of going to New York to be on Broadway or to LA to hit it big in Hollywood or to start a band and become famous. The social media era paths to fame have a lower barrier of entry. You no longer need to move halfway across the country or practice for hours to pursue your dreams.
Older people seem to think of Internet fame as some sort of bargain-basement level of fame, when it’s the sort of fame that budding young attention whores care most about acquiring. If you are a parent, this is what your kids are likely going to grow up wanting to do, this DIY celebrity that you can pursue without any filter.
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