Well of course once you have the child you’re never going to say how awful it was. No one thinks that about their own child.
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True, but I don’t think that one would describe it specifically as “cathartic”. Seems sus.
People will convince themselves of all sorts of things to make themselves feel better. I would imagine that a person raped by a stepfather and raising his child is going to desperately need some kind of narrative to cope with the trauma.
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It’s not inconceivable that a specific woman could feel that specific way. Different people can have vastly different feelings about the same experiences. Most obviously wouldn’t, but some would. It’s almost as if it’s an individual thing and that what a woman decides to do should be her choice!
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THAT’S SOCIALISM!
it’s also not inconceivable that a woman who underwent a traumatic abortion in her life may be anti-abortion as a way of coping or atoning. that still makes the stance extremely wrong.
If anyone’s curious the fake abortion clinics conservatives put up get counted as reproductive service building for the purposes of making crimes federal crimes
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1618025431646732289?t=WZ0IF7kqT65j1vKRFiTeBw&s=19
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A lawyer’s attempt to have his pregnant client released from jail ahead of trial by arguing that her fetus has been subject to “unlawful and illegal detention” could have profound consequences for the rights of women in Florida.
Attorney William M Norris filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus on behalf of the “unborn child” of Natalia Harrell in Florida’s third district court of appeal on 16 February, the Miami Herald first reported.
The filing argues that the fetus “is a person under the Florida constitution and the United States constitution” and therefore has the right to due process.
“The unborn child has not been charged with a criminal offense by respondents or the Miami Dade state attorney’s office, yet respondents have unborn child in a detention center known as TGK in Miami Dade county, Florida,” the filing states.
“If you recognize fetal personhood, this is a Pandora’s box,” said Mary Ziegler, a law professor and expert in abortion law. Ziegler said it was hard to see how the court could grant a writ in Harrell’s case without establishing “some kind of generalizable rule” of fetal personhood.
“It has the potential to establish that abortion is always illegal and potentially to expose women to punishment or make it a violation of the Florida constitution to perform an abortion,” she said. “It would mean that you can’t imprison people who are pregnant, no matter what crime.”
I’d like to see the old anti abortionists wriggle out of this one. Wait you mean the judges say that fetuses get an exception and that they’ll just make up some rule? oh ok
Women who use drugs while pregnant would be committing aggravated assault and felony child abuse. Seems like this argument will get tossed, but clever.
Fetus complicit imo
This is common afaik, although not sure about the specific charges.
Really? I’ve never seen any woman charged with it in my backwater state, and substance-exposed newborns are born every day.
Just google ‘pregnant woman charged’ for an unlimited supply of examples.
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50 in 25 years is actually less than I expected.
There are thousands of SEN every day.
I will take over 50 in the next 25 years for my net worth and any amount of money I can borrow.
100% agree, if that fetal personhood argument is adopted.