The 2024 Hurricane Season - Helene Heading to FLA Panhandle

So what’s the deal with Rick Scott claiming that the bill he voted against has no funding for Florida to help after the hurricane?

Guess we’d better close Florida, Houston, New Orleans, New York City, etc. Move everyone out of California, because it’s insane to build in earthquake prone areas. So dumb that there are people in low-cost housing in Oklahoma and Kansas with all those tornadoes.

The whole “people shouldn’t live where a natural disaster can happen” is cool and all, until you consider that like, most of the country is susceptible to some kind of disaster. Time to move everyone to…Michigan?

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Without looking it up, I’m going with “Rick Scott is completely full of shit”.

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Hurricanes and earthquakes are much more destructive, expensive, and deadly than other disasters. Major hurricanes are much more frequent than major earthquakes. Rising seas are going to make them even worse in the future.

So yeah, we can make a pretty significant dent in the toll from natural disasters just by focusing on places like Florida which insist on repeatedly building in the worst possible places in the worst possible ways. If you want to toss Galveston, Corpus, and Houston in there as well, that’s fine with me.

There’s also a lot you can do to make buildings resistant to earthquakes.

The problem is that these locations are subsidized by the tax payers. Make the people who want to live there pay a tax that goes into a natural disaster relief fund. Stop subsidizing flood insurance. Stop giving them shit for free all the time.

A posted a link up thread of a $3+ million dollar 900ft2 house in Fort Meyers. All the property in Florida a mile from the coast is probably worth a trillion dollars or something.

I meant more the places on barrier beaches where we keep rebuilding and spending billions of dollars to recreate beaches that nature keeps tearing down. I wasn’t talking about the entirety of the coast. I also think a probability analysis should go into it too. LIke, yeah, a once in 100 year storm can fuck up parts of NY but I don’t think that’s an issue. But FL? Where this shit happens every few years, and will only increase in frequency with global warming? That’s a problem.

Problem is, it’s like once in a 100 years for each individual place that gets fucked up, so you pretty much need to make that rule for everywhere and ban people from living in any coastal location.

You just have to start charging them a tax for living in these places. It’s pretty simple. Let’s say that the expectation for Florida is that there will be $60 billion in hurricane damage in the average year. You levy that tax against property owners along the coast to collect $60 billion a year.

Some of these coastal areas it’s not once in 100 years. It’s like once in 5.

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Which ones? I’m not really familiar with any places being destroyed and rebuilt every 5 years, but I could be wrong.

And yeah, I’m totally fine with some kind of tax or some way other than lolsocialism.

It’s just tricky to purity test which places and which disasters we should help and which are the fault of the people living in a location that “they shouldn’t”.

Naples got it badly from both Irma and Ian, and its a very expensive place to live.

Unfortunately, in the wild, I have run into “Rick Scott is such a paragon of virtue he is against WASTEFUL GOVERNMENT SPENDING even if his state would benefit.”

Florida Keys

https://www.weather.gov/key/2000sHurricanes

I’d have to do some googling, but there are barrier beach areas in FL that get eroded away from like normal storms and shit that we are constantly fixing with taxpayer money because rich people have property there.

Yeah that’s one example.

Is this our fearless boat driver getting rescued later?

(it does not look like the same boat but look how far into the trees he ended up)

Major earthquakes also make future major earthquakes in the same location less likely in the next, say, 25-100 years, right? Like pressure builds up and then is released. After a massive earthquake, you’re more likely to have aftershocks in the coming months or a few years, but it would be extremely unlikely to have two huge earthquakes in the same area in one lifetime, let alone generation. Right?

As an East Coast guy I’m not an expert on earthquakes, but that’s what I remember learning in grade school and high school…

Especially as the dynamics of hurricanes change. Like I think in the past the tendency was for the Cat 4/5 hurricanes to have smaller windfields, with tighter rotation. Now they’re just massive behemoths.

The issue is that flood insurance is federally subsidized.

Yeah it looks like a different boat but that’s crazy video. How many Florida Men were out and about in their boats during a Category 4 hurricane?

You’ve got to give it to Florida Men, always raising the bar on themselves.

Yeah I have no idea, you’d either need to have inside info from an insurance company or FEMA, or dig through budget reports or something I think.