How criminal records hold Americans back - The Boston Globe
Millions are trailed by permanent, easily accessible records — at what critics say is far too a high a cost.
I pointed that out in a post I made here a few days ago. That was more related to casual racism expressed by landlords. Saw a considerable numbers of ads telling foreigners not to apply. I made inquiries with them anyway and got positive responses from a couple of them. So those were clearly targeted at non-whites.
My soon-to-be former flatmates are Burmese and are often confused as being Vietnamese (there’s a large population of Vietnamese immigrants here) or Chinese. They also face a lot of complaints from neighbors related to the scent of their food (which isn’t bad) and the noise they make (they make none). It’s nothing more than bullying from bigoted Czechs who live nearby.
On an unrelated note, the Vietnamese food in Little Hanoi is A+. Only suckers eat at restaurants in Prague 1.
You would have to do the whole thing in person to avoid the fraud charges—no emails, texts or calls. If you set up a physical payment by phone, pretty sure they can still get you.
Destroy the modern right but also be centrist!
This is basically me. I was a centrist until what had actually happened in 2016 clicked with me. Then I realized that we’d run out of time for incremental approaches. Now I’m a reluctant advocate for fast paced change. I realize how disruptive it’s going to be and how many people are going to get hurt… but seriously if we go slowly we’ll run out of time long before we get where we have to get.
My old positions made plenty of sense 10 years ago. They were honestly a little stale in 2016 and barely viable. Now they would be full on idiotic if I stood by them.
Why is the employer’s right to know stronger than my right to know if my neighbor has history of violence or the person I’m dating?
In a perfect world your mistakes wouldn’t define the rest of your life, and there should be limits to what records are publicly available or for how long, but the idea that a corporation has a greater claim to that knowledge than the general public is kinda bullshit.
You are on the wrong side of this debate. Basically the whole world does it the opposite way from the US. Think about that.
Here is an article showing why it’s such a terrible policy.
Millions are trailed by permanent, easily accessible records — at what critics say is far too a high a cost.
Think it’s very hard to find a perfect system. On the one hand there are very serious downsides to anybody being able to look up a person’s criminal history - it is already very difficult for someone with a criminal record to move on with their life once their sentence, whether that be prison or probation, is completed. That is not good - neither for that person or society in general.
Obviously (to me at least), there are cases though where people genuinely need to know about a person’s criminal history. Our system here is that if a person is looking to work with or volunteer with an organisation and their role will likely involve them having unsupervised access to vulnerable people (i.e. kids/elderly/sick/intellectual disabilities etc), by law they must be vetted by the police and the organisation is told if they have any criminal convictions and the nature of those convictions.
Overall, I think this isn’t too bad a solution - the one weakness is it doesn’t provide a way for e.g. women to find out if a prospective boyfriend has convictions.
I’m on team Clovis wrt criminal records. I probably wouldn’t let employers check them (with exemptions for asking about specific types of felonies for specific types of employers) either.
You are on the wrong side of this debate. Basically the whole world does it the opposite way from the US. Think about that.
Here is an article showing why it’s such a terrible policy.
You haven’t begun to convince me. I’m definitely not to going to agree that corporations have more need for that information than the public does.
You started with “nobody agrees with you” then several posters showed the the entire world agreed with me.
You not being convinced is not a me problem. It’s a you problem.
I’m on team ‘they paid their debt already’. The way we handle criminal records in the US is we permanently consign you to being a second class citizen that can’t get a decent job, vote, get any kind of government help, or even get sympathy for your situation. A fair number of the homeless people begging you for money every time you stop at a red light are felons who are truly out of options.
Our entire criminal justice system is a massive racist dumpster fire. Meanwhile we absolutely do not punish white collar criminals, who do the majority of the stealing in dollar terms by far, in any way shape or form.
With the employer you choose yourself whether you turn over your criminal record.
That’s why they’re so terrified right? They assume that they’ll do to us what we did to them.
I’m on team Clovis wrt criminal records. I probably wouldn’t let employers check them (with exemptions for asking about specific types of felonies for specific types of employers) either.
Just want to note that by law people have to disclose if they have been convicted of a felony when asked while applying for a job.
Of course we also have to deal with issues where research is able to uncover an unfair justice system if all criminal records are private. It would be virtually impossible to argue certain segments of the population are being unfairly targeted without access to the data.
The farewell to Robert Mugabe at the National Sports Stadium in Harare.
I’m on team ‘they paid their debt already’. The way we handle criminal records in the US is we permanently consign you to being a second class citizen that can’t get a decent job, vote, get any kind of government help, or even get sympathy for your situation. A fair number of the homeless people begging you for money every time you stop at a red light are felons who are truly out of options.
Our entire criminal justice system is a massive racist dumpster fire. Meanwhile we absolutely do not punish white collar criminals, who do the majority of the stealing in dollar terms by far, in any way shape or form.
If you can’t be trusted to earn a paycheck in the private sector should you even be walking the streets freely?
The stigma is most important when it comes to employment and getting a job so there should be strict restrictions there. Having some nosy joe schmoe looking up records is far less harmful then employers.