He got bail??? Lol this country
The judge isn’t a Gail King watcher apparently
So I think I may have missed the conversation but I’d like to be informed. What’s the issue with people charging market value for rent if there is someone willing to pay what you’re asking? On its face it seems like rent control is a bit of government overreach on personal property rights.
This is a genuine question (I’d hope my prior posting shows I’m just ignorant not a “just asking questions guy” on the issue).
So today on the way home from the grocery store to watch the debate, I was waiting to make a u-turn in the turning lane on a four lane highway (two each way). As I edged forward a bit, the car behind me ran into me. I stopped and got out, and so did she. “Did I hit you?” she asked me. I looked at her to see if she was crazy, because even though it was a fender bender the impact was pretty obvious. I told her yes, she did. She then tried to convince me the damage was minor and not a big enough deal to worry about.
I’ve got a 2016 mid-sized sedan that was previously in perfect condition (I’ve only had it five months), and the right rear bumper was popped out where it meets the right rear wheel well - like all the clips that hold it in place popped off and it was sticking out. The paint was scraped on the bumper. Part of the bumper fell off. No, lady, I’m not going to let this one slide. So I ask her to get her info and I call the police to get a police report, which is one of those things that sort of feels ridiculous when it’s an obvious situation as to who’s at fault and it’s minor, but I’ve been told by my insurance agent before to ALWAYS do this. So I do it.
She starts acting weird about that and says we don’t need it. I get a picture of her license, insurance card, and license plate and tell her we do. She says she’s not staying, and I tell her she has to. She tells me she can’t right now, I tell her she has to, like it sucks but you just hit me you’ve gotta stay. I tell the 9-1-1 dispatcher we’ll pull off to the side, and point to the parking lot across the way for us to pull into and tell her that we need to pull in there. I pull in, she pulls over into the shoulder, looks over at me, and speeds off.
At this point I check the pictures I got to see if I got totally played, and the name on the insurance card does not match her name - but they have the same address.
35 minutes later the cops haven’t arrived, so I call back, and they tell me they’re on their way, maybe there’s traffic. It’s now 7:55 pm in suburban Delaware, there’s no freaking traffic. It takes another 30 minutes for the police officer to arrive. He asks me when the accident happened, I tell him, and he looks at me a little suspiciously, “It’s been a while!” he tells me.
I shrug, “I called it in within five minutes of it happening, I’ve just been sitting here waiting.”
I explain the whole thing, and he informs me that he will not be able to establish fault because, and I quote, “It’s your word against hers and she’s not here, and I’m not going to [her address 45 minutes away] to get her statement.” He goes on to tell me that since the damage is relatively minor, nobody was hurt, and she left me her info, he’s not going to ticket her for a hit and run either. (The law says you can’t leave the scene of an accident with apparent damage of > $500 without the permission of the other driver, but I’m not going to argue with a cop on the side of the highway because I don’t have a death wish. And even though the damage is minor, I highly doubt I’m getting a new bumper and paint for < $500.)
He gives me the police report, and I go home. I call my insurance company and they tell me that they will have to do further investigating to determine fault (LOL), and I need to follow up with them tomorrow to answer some questions. Further, since she’s not listed on the insurance card as an authorized driver, I may get screwed anyway.
Little did I know that fleeing the scene of an accident when at fault was the +EV move. Jokes on me, I guess. In hindsight, I guess I should have told her she could leave if she let me record a video of her admitting fault or something, I don’t know. Or I should have left the vehicles in the middle of the turning lane with her blocked in so she couldn’t leave and just caused a little traffic jam, which likely would have gotten the police there quicker.
Life. Ugh.
But it does if the market rate shoots up faster than the limit on increases. I think I support it on landlords with > X units and not on landlords with < X units, and I’m not sure exactly where X should be. It seems like part of the problem with the cost of housing being too high is also employers not paying enough, so maybe the right approach hits the problem from both sides and increase minimum wage.
You could also argue that the best option is to use the scale/power of the government to try to alleviate pressure on the housing market. This could be done by expanding public transit, adding public housing, and limiting any additional zoning/incentives for large businesses to move into the area (thus slowing down the rate of increases in housing demand).
Yup… It sucks.
I’m generally OK when Ive been hit by another car, as I drive for a living and see so much agro and road rage, I’m actually 1 off the calmest when driving but am a terrible back seat driver 
It’s best to keep calm and look for how their gonna try and escape paying, so my general rule is never get out 1st and when I do get out I move slowly with a warming look/face with the whole intention of making sure that If they don’t record into my phone or wait for the police that this occurring pain I’m feeling definitely won’t go away and then I’ll happily oblige to record into their phone that it’s only the vehicle that has been damaged.
This move generally works but maybe because they know that they’ll be paying a shit load if I’m off my work. 
So, as a renter (and I am one now), I’d absolutely hate to have my rent jump that much. But on the other hand, once the lease ends, why should they be obligated to give you a discount on the market rate?
Right, build more housing and/or expand the radius of acceptable locations to live in the urban area to keep a commute reasonable (improved transit), and/or limit new job creation that will bring new people into the area (although generally that’s the last thing any city wants to limit). But one problem can be that for every X new white collar jobs there are Y new service/blue collar jobs, and the white collar jobs can increase the cost of living in the area enough to price out the people working the service/blue collar jobs, so trying to balance that a bit through increasing the minimum wage should at least help a little.
Yeah I don’t have it in me to even pretend that I might be hurt if I’m not in this situation, and the accident was so minor there was no chance of it. I was very calm, but unfortunately it didn’t work out for me. I should have tried to get her to record into my phone that it was her fault. I need to get it through my head that people are either close friends/family or they’re not, and if they’re not they almost always only have their own interest in mind and will completely fuck you if given any opportunity whatsoever to do so.
I also figured it was a slam dunk the cop would cite her as at fault since:
A) The damage was to my rear bumper,
B) She let me photograph her insurance card and license,
and
C) She freaking left
I figured he’d also cite her for leaving.
Jokes on me there, I guess.
Right so that’s my point. Like typically, you would sign a lease for X months (12-18 usually) and then after that you either go month to month at whatever rate was determined in the lease and/or whatever you negotiate, or you sign a new lease at whatever the new rate is.
So my question for you is, why should the government be able to limit the rate on the next lease or the month-to-month rate just because you were already there before? If the market rate has gone up 25%, why should they only be allowed to increase your rent 10%? (I don’t know the actual numbers, I’m just creating an example.)
Now, morally, there are plenty of arguments for rent control, and I would come down somewhere in the middle, but I don’t think it’s something I would wholeheartedly support in all circumstances for all landlords.
Damn, dude. Tough one.
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Well I’m fine with well-regulated capitalism with a strong safety net, so we’re not going to see eye to eye on that part.
I think it’s issue by issue, like I think drugs/healthcare are a bit different here… But I also think there’s a huge difference between, say, a slumlord and someone who buys one investment property and then rents it out.
I think that’s a pretty extreme view, and while you might be able to make a theoretical argument for it, I don’t see how an anti-property stance can work in a world with real human beings as opposed to a utopia where everyone is good and kind.
Yeah, I agree there, that’s why I’d support a middle of the road approach that would protect some people and impact some property owners, while leaving others relatively unaffected.
Na the jokes are not on you lol. Unfortunately it’s the world we live in that a the perpetrator will always try to do one over you because insurance sucks.
Fortunately your OK and the vehicle will be good, I’d take it to someone I trust to see if the bumber is OK and go from there.
- If the bumber is OK just patch the rest up with some touch up and realign the bumper.
- If it’s broken replace the whole thing and get the back looked at.
Good Luck and there’s a good chance the Bumper is all good as they can take a lot nowadays. 
I mentioned Thorstein Veblen just a few hours ago.
Yeah, that’s why the joke’s on me. I’ve always just done the right thing when I’ve been at fault in an accident.
Yeah, fortunately nobody was hurt, but I’ll have to go to whoever my insurance company approves… Then hope they’re able to get the other insurance company to pay for it, otherwise I’ll be out $250 plus likely increased rates as this would be my second accident in under six months. The first one was my fault, this one wasn’t obviously, but if it goes down as no fault and goes through my policy, it’ll ding me anyway I think.
Yeah that’d be a bummer to have to settle for just touch up paint. The car barely had a scratch on it and I’d only had it for like five months.
Thanks, we’ll see what happens I guess.
I had actually been on pins and needles lately waiting for something bad to happen. Too many good things happened in the last few weeks with finding a great apartment and all, nothing really bad had happened in like two months, so I had a feeling of doom like, “I don’t get to run this good at life.”
A girl I had been talking to who I was excited about ghosted me before we got a date set up, then this. Oh well, new apartment in 2.5 weeks. Actually decent timing for the car accident, it would have sucked a lot more if it happened in three weeks.
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So our corporate overlords’ algorithms have determined that you’re likely making a mess of your place and in need of someone to clean up after you, and would be most interested in hiring “Fit Bottomed Girls” to do so?
On the other hand, our corporate overlords’ algorithms say that you can afford a maid service, so congrats on that! 
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Shit why would I ever want to go back to America?
I’m a pragmatist, so my main problem with rent control is that it probably doesn’t work. This is something that a strong consensus of economists on both the right and the left (for example, Paul Krugman) think is a bad idea. I am inclined to believe them in the same way that I am inclined to believe scientists about climate change.
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