I think a hybrid of Gobert and Bowen is what you’d be looking at.
He def doesn’t have Dray’s full skillset and never would. He could still have a starter role on a super team, but the fit would have to be there.
Rodman
Durant
Klay
Steph + random (s)wing
Would def work. Dray’s offensive role became a lot less needed when Durant was iso’ing.
You don’t think averaging ten more rebounds a game than Draymond (including four or five more offensive rebounds) might make up for a few of those deficiencies? Or that Rodman could improve other deficiencies in his game by focusing on other stuff? Like did you see where Rodman lead the league in eFG% in his third year in the NBA?
No big deal, just a player getting 34 rebounds in a single game that doesn’t fit into the modern NBA in any way
it makes up for a lot of things, but it also means he’s not compatible to Draymond in anyway.
His efg isn’t the question. The issue is how well his offense can run when the defending team has effectively a big athletic forward that is playing free safety.
I also love how the style the Dutch employed to get their revenge was route-1-direct. The obituary for that deliberate tiki taka Spanish side was written with a rapier-like instrument.
now they’re airing Rodman For Better or Worse
Rodman is kind of like Ben Simmons minus the passing and cowardice behind the three-point line, so imagine the Sixers on possessions where Simmons plays off the ball and that might give you an idea of how he might fare. Also, imagine Rodman dating a Kardashian.
Player in this game who definetly doesn’t have a role in the modern NBA:
Dennis Rodman
Players in that game who would probably be pretty good actually in the modern NBA:
Detlelf Schrempf
Bill Lambier
Reggie Miller
John Salley
Isaiah Thomas
Joe Dumars
Rik Smits
So…you don’t think Rodman can develop a midrange jumper to counter this? Of course he could. Like teams were guarding Rodman in those videos I posted. Not because they felt like it but because they had to.
citation needed
Watch the yootubes?
Or answer this: is Dennis Rodman the only hall of famer in the last 30 years that wouldn’t have a role in the modern NBA?
where is he nailing those coveted mid rangers? Rodman never had a shot. Any NBA team would leave him completely open and rightfully so.
There are many HOF who would struggle, but as DI mentioned, it will mostly because of slow feet. Rodman is unique in this category because he’s a terrible offensive player who was rather quick on his feet.
No idea how to answer the ‘they don’t guard him because they feel like it’. It’s the same logic that made them throw 21 foot jumpers 500 times a game? This is rapidly going into “today’s defenses are soft” territory so it might be time for me to bow out.
He never had to have a shot! He was never asked to have a shot! He was obviously an elite defender, elite rebounder. Quick, smart, powerful, explosive. Thinking he couldn’t adapt to the modern game enough to be valuable is insane.
No that’s this Dennis Rodman one
Yeah I’m watching it now. Sad. He’s just a big kid, tremendously emotionally stunted. Zero chance he could have handled things well. I just love him so much.
he was 58% ft shooter. He was asked to score those. Nothing in those attributes you mentioned means he has the ability to score. I don’t think it’s “insane” to question it.
It is, however, undoubtedly certifiably insane to think he had a secret mid-range game that all the teams knew about and therefore he was never able to show it. Illuminati shit right there.
It’s also hardly insane to think that an NBA defense would rip apart a team with such a player, that not only can’t score, but can’t dribble, pass or create scoring opportunities in an elite level. Keep in mind that Rodman didn’t even play NCAA so there’s basically no level in which he showed ability to score.
He wasn’t asked to do that because defenses didn’t force him to. There’s no evidence whatsoever that he had that ability. That’s my whole point. If he can become even a 36-37% 3 point shooter on decent volume, like a poor man PJ Tucker, he would surely have value, in the non-certain scenario where his offensive rebounding skills remain elite.
We won’t convince each other obviously. Your argument about 90’s defenses guarding him properly kinda settles that one.
“I put the gun to my head, I wasn’t trying to shoot Dennis Rodman. I was trying to change the old one so the new could come out”
Me too.
He is art personified imo triumph and tragedy
He never averaged more than three free throw attempts a game in any season.
He didn’t have a secret mid range game. There’s no reason to think he couldn’t have developed one. He obviously had the physical tools to play in the 1990s NBA at an elite level, it’s crazy to think that a 6’7" athletic freak who can guard Shaq and average six offensive rebounds a game couldn’t fit into the 2020 NBA.
Jonathan Isaac is actually the closest example I can think of, but his offensive talent right now is already much better than Rodman ever was.
