mjiggy
May 23, 2021, 4:53pm
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smrk and lawnmowerman having the same avatar should be grounds for some sort of punitive action.
I also think this walrus has started out on the wrong foot and I’m getting less and less enthused about participating. The butthurt isn’t supposed to start until AFTER you’ve been harshly and unfairly judged despite having great taste in music.
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Yeah this doesn’t seem very interesting to me as a “game” so I think I’m gonna bail. It looks like there are two different ideas for what is supposed to happen, and the one that is basically people taking turns on the jukebox doesn’t appeal to me. On the other hand, a lot of people do want that and don’t seem to want focused categories that exclude their favorite music. Trying to incorporate both seems suboptimal to the extent that this should be a game that is fun and interesting for everyone.
They are different though and we can prove it because BLOCKCHAIN.
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mjiggy
May 23, 2021, 7:27pm
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Your category idea might work better for a solo walrus? I just think it requires baseline knowledge that most people don’t have, including other gamers, and lacking that, would be more work than most people prefer to do for a grab bag.
Also on this note, things have unexpectedly accumulated on me the last couple of days in both work and home life which are making it increasingly likely I won’t have time to participate in this walrus either. Still holding out hope but I was expecting quite a lot more free time before going out of town which no longer looks like it’s going to happen.
The grab bag is the only way I could do a category like this because of the required time on my end. Not joking though that my first category was music recorded in the 1940s.
mjiggy:
I just think it requires baseline knowledge that most people don’t have, including other gamers, and lacking that, would be more work than most people prefer to do for a grab bag.
My baseline knowledge is I played games 15 to 30 years ago. It’s not like I sit around studying or listening to this stuff. Outside of an occasional cover on Youtube, the last time I heard most of this is decades ago, but much of it is permanently etched into my brain.
Pauwl
May 23, 2021, 11:09pm
140
Trying again, these are the categories so far:
seities:
Category host name: seities
Category: Triangulate a submission for seities
I’ve selected three songs that are somewhat well known, but also help illustrate what I am currently looking for new music similar to. Think of each song like a point on a triangle. Submit something that you think “belongs” at any point on, or inside, that triangle.
Nirvana - Tourettes: Nirvana- Tourette’s (Audio) - YouTube Godzilla (feat. Juice WRLD) [Official Audio] - YouTube The Prodigy - Breathe - YouTube
Musical tastes: Seems less relevant for this category, but to explain further what I am looking for: I’ve said previously I like music on the faster/harder/louder side. I enjoy all three songs above, but they were primarily selected because they are relatively well known and illustrative of how my general preferred style persists across different genres.
Any other judging notes: Anything overly familiar will be penalized. Also, I am not scoring higher based on where in the triangle your suggestion would fit. That is to say, some hybrid rap/hardcore/grunge/electro someone is able to dig up would not necessarily score any higher than a submission that would fall directly on top of one of the above songs on the triangle.
mjiggy:
Category host name: MJiggyCategory: A song from a band or artist that you haven’t submitted to walrus before. Also cannot be any of the musicians who are frequently submitted including but not limited to: Rage Against the Machine, Bad Religion, System of a Down, the Pixies, [leaving this space for other artistsI think of] Musical tastes: Indie or alternative rock, hip hop from the 90s, pop punk/emo from the 2000s, various other types of music. Probably similar tastes to Pauwl except think more mainstream. Not a big fan of metal, country, electronic, or songs longer than 5 minutes.Any other judging notes: When I listen to current music it’s usually “alternative” rock like The 1975 or Walk the Moon before they blew up, so probably try to avoid stuff that’s relatively well known. Less popular stuff from the 80s is high risk, high reward.
Update to my category: it should also not be from a musician or band that you can assume everyone on the forum has already listened to music from e.g. The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish, Beyonce, etc despite there not having been many previous walrus submissions by them. If it’s someone that one or two other people have submitted over the entire history of walrus that’s probably fine; the whole point is to make sure we are keeping our walruses from becoming stale.
Pauwl:
Category host name: PauwlCategory: Honky Tonk Heroes : Country or country adjacent music.
I fell in love with Emmylou Harris recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sZdFJjnd3M
Or just go Outlaw Country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKuc4nfJByc
Don’t enter modern pop country or Garth Brooks type crap. For Country Country, go way back (before the 80’s at least).
Musical tastes: Indie rock, folk, blues, gospel, old fingerpicking music and a bunch of other genres that won’t help you here.Any other judging notes: Overly familiar songs will be punished (unless I’ve never heard it before) . I’ll try to keep an open mind here, but the song should have some sort of country music element.
crash_face:
Category host name : crash_faceCategory : Electronic music. I am pretty unfamiliar with this category and I am just looking to expand my horizons. I know it’s a broad category, and I don’t even really know what is included. Basically–what would you have someone listen to in order to convince them this genre can hold its own, artistically speakingMusical tastes : I like a lot of stuff, slanted toward old man music. Very familiar with 60s 70s 80s pop and rock. 90s sort of. Last couple decades not so much. I listen to a lot of jazz and classical, some blues and reggae. Love old Stones, Kinks, Beastie Boys, Clash, Bruce, VU, Neil Young, Pretenders. 80s college radio stuff like REM/Pavement, old country (Bob Wills on up through Willie/Waylon/Merle/Cash). Alt-country stuff like Lucinda Williams, Lyle LovettAny other judging notes : I am basically looking to learn about the genre and find new stuff to listen to. I know it’s a broad category, but hoping to get a variety. Unsure if beautiful haunting slow songs would do better, or rockers, or (ahem) bangers, or what. Somewhat suspicious of EDM, but maybe that is just prejudice and someone can convert me. You probably don’t run the risk of submitting something I know well, unless it was from the 80s, or was so popular in the last couple decades that I would have just heard it around somewhere. If it is somehow overly familiar it might drop a little, but if it’s still good I wouldn’t drop it below a song I don’t really dig. Not looking for Kraftwerk or Einstürzende Neubauten or anything like that. Two songs I like a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0SgwWmF9w
I love this song, hard to explain why exactly. It seems to be more of a “traditional” pop song with chords, verse, chorus, solo. I would say that a droning or techno-trance type song would be a riskier bet, but then again I also like this song, so who knows (probably first heard it on West Wing):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbe3CQamF8k
Deviating from “normal” songs could be a high risk/high reward thing. Oh and I don’t really know songs from previous Walri (?) so a repeat would not be penalized, although I assume other veterans might bust your chops.
LouisCyphre:
Category host name: Louis Cyphre
Category: A song that DOES NOT feature an electric guitar. No acoustic/cover versions of songs with electric guitars.
Musical tastes: I mainly listen to rock and metal (from vanilla to extreme) and their siblings, cousins and bastards. I also listen to pop, hip-hop, some classic, a tiny bit of opera and I can generally find something I like in most genres.
Any other judging notes:
The song should not annoy me.
The song should not bore me.
Warning: I might judge very well-known songs harshly.
smrk4:
Category host name : smrk4
Category : A song invoking or evoking the ancient mythology of any culture. Mythology may include current religions if you like, but I’m going to draw a line at gospel and plainly devotional music (as in don’t submit these for this category), though songs with Christian or Islamic chants and such would be acceptable for example. I’d nudge you away from songs that only occasionally name check a Greek God or something, but if you’re stuck and the song is good, that’s ok also. The master LouisCyphre won my category in the last walrus with this submission: https://youtu.be/hurWzo01FpM and something like that would work well here, although I’m relaxing my judging notes to say you don’t have to send me metal, I’m going to be basically open to whatever comes for this one.
Musical tastes : I like metal (but not the screamy stuff), most rock, some blues, some pop. Also into a lot of new-age electronic stuff, but maybe not dance music per se. Neutral on punk and hip hop. Country is generally a no go. I don’t like huddle around the campfire folky stuff, sorry.
cassette:
Category host name: cassetteCategory: 10,000 Hours: A song that features an expert performance. A lot of songs are great in part because of their simplicity. A lot of punk, rock, and hip hop might be described this way. After a few weeks of practice, a 12-year-old could play most Ramones tunes or at least mumble along with most of hip hop’s greats. But some songs don’t work this way. They require a lot of practice. So pick a song that is great but also has an expert amount of skill needed for the performance. I’ll leave this pretty open. If you think it qualifies, then it does. You don’t need to find a once-in-a-generation virtuoso (though you might), but try to pick something that you think would take at least a few years of dedicated practice to pull off.Musical tastes: Loud, weird, some bleeps and bloops, punk and metal, rap (mostly 2010 and earlier), anyone with just a guitar, country (think Townes Van Zandt rather than Garth Brooks), quiet stuff too. Pretty much anything goes, but avoid bands that were designed by an executive somewhere if possible.Notes: All genres welcome. Don’t limit yourself to solo cello performances and the like. Preference will be given to the best songs, will level of skill just being a filter. Pure math rock noodling or whatever isn’t an automatic win.
pyatnitski:
Category Host Name pyatnitski
Category Late Night Vibes
Musical tastes Jazz, worldwide ‘folk’, noisy or ambient electronics, instrumental / experimental rock, 70s weirdness of most kinds, louder metal, minimalism, idiosyncratic 90s indie bands, dub, old soul & R&B, this and that. Don’t really listen to contemporary mainstream rock. I hate coffeeshop acoustic stuff, but then everyone thinks that even though some of them like it nonetheless.
Notes I have a definite vibe that I go for when it gets late but you don’t have to hit that to score well as I’ll just go by how much I like the song. It might be best if you say a few words about what vibe you’re aiming for, though, as that will eliminate the possibility of me worrying that “this isn’t late night music at all, though, is it?”
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Awesome! I have something in mind for about half of these already and looking forward to figuring out the rest
Question: You typed Monster, but linked Godzilla. I’d argue that they are pretty different songs. Which one did you mean?
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I feel confident is seities, Jiggy, Pauwl, Louis, crash, and eyebooger. Will need to think a little bit on the rest.
Looking forward to it!
cassette:
I feel confident is seities, Jiggy, Pauwl, Louis, crash, and eyebooger .
You found some Cameroonian metal already?
metal-archives.com knows 0 metal bands from Cameroon, Chad, Comoros, DR Congo, Rep. Congo, Central African Republic, Cape Verde, Christmas Island, Cook Island, Cocos Island or Cayman Islands.
There are 4 from Cambodia and 1 one from Curacao though.
Yuv
May 24, 2021, 2:11am
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Sliten6ix Deathcore (early); Black Metal (later) Phnom Penh
i hate their later stuff.
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Category Host Name pyatnitski
Category Late Night Vibes
Musical tastes Jazz, worldwide ‘folk’, noisy or ambient electronics, instrumental / experimental rock, 70s weirdness of most kinds, louder metal, minimalism, idiosyncratic 90s indie bands, dub, old soul & R&B, this and that. Don’t really listen to contemporary mainstream rock. I hate coffeeshop acoustic stuff, but then everyone thinks that even though some of them like it nonetheless.
Notes I have a definite vibe that I go for when it gets late but you don’t have to hit that to score well as I’ll just go by how much I like the song. It might be best if you say a few words about what vibe you’re aiming for, though, as that will eliminate the possibility of me worrying that “this isn’t late night music at all, though, is it?”
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My bad, I meant Godzilla (the one I linked to). Ill fix my OP. @Pauwl could you please update the consolidation post as well?
Listening to country music I remember why I don’t like country music. My experience so far in nutshell:
I hope the category features a lot more like “Harlan” and no songs about trucks and boots.
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Yuv and Lawnmower Man are not playing, is that right?
Don’t think so. I’ll do an official category wrap up post with contestants, categories and new instructions + deadlines tomorrow morning.
Still time for sign-ups everyone!
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Ah thanks, didn’t know there was an official list coming
mjiggy
May 24, 2021, 4:49pm
154
I’m still a maybe. I want to participate but my time commitments are not cooperating! Will depend on how the next couple of days go and when the deadline is set for submissions. Luckily my category is fairly basic and should not be taking up much of anyone’s time.
