I’ve said more than once that I don’t think people should just pick sides. They should express their honest thoughts and opinions, and if that leaves them clearly on a side, after hindsight analysis, then so be it.
So, um, that said, oh man you really should get your side together, maybe in a top-secret PM, and get all the ducks in a row. You really haven’t noticed that the omg-long-term-good-posters-are-leaving talking point has been totally abandoned? It’s long been abandoned after it’s shown that they’re leaving because of you (not even the royal ‘you’ to some degree; like, specifically what you personify here)!
I’ve had multiple lurkers/infrequent-posters PM me and share that they’re not even going to lurk anymore because Team Trolly is so gross, but that they’ve always liked my posting and wish me well.
I mean, how many PMs like that did you receive, should we go tit-for-tat? Do you think anybody is going to lament Awkward Okaaaay Guy From K&P Sketch: Politics Forum Version never posting again?
You flippantly insult people by describing this as “perpetual whining and trolling” and other people, both longterm members and lurking infrequent posters, find that super gross!
Clovis sharing a new opinion he formed based on analyzing new information is not needless agitation, and it’s super weird you think that it is.
Trolly needs the memos as he’s accidentally not toeing the line, because,
he’s right, it is a difference of moderation standards. The main standard being having some sort of standards in the first place! And by having standards, fostering some sort of actual sense of community.
These are all my impressions and I don’t speak for everybody and could potentially not be speaking for anybody: I’m suspecting they didn’t spell this out to you due to a sense of diplomacy. Lead by example, right? Start a subforum and not try to finally come to some understanding about the calvinball that this forum has been?
Lol I literally asked in the about-moderation thread the other day if there were stickies with links to actual rules and, if not, where the rules were posted, if they existed (I found something that read like Discourse’s General Suggestions but wasn’t sure). I was ignored, and then banned later for some other calvinball thing, without a word of explanation before, during, or after!
So the idea is, like, hey, you know, maybe just not do that. No point in shitting on MrWookie with more constructive criticism over a questionable decision, instead just do a subforum that actually fosters a culture of respect. Again, nobody gives a shit about getting banned, they care about what those obtuse and rash decisions give a green-light to.
If you don’t think the microcosm of forum politics and civics, plus the fallout from failed (?) mini-political-experiments of alternative modding, on a politics forum is interesting and fascinating and worthy of discussion (hey look the leftist/left-liberal mods went full-fasch, I thought the Stanford Prison Experiment was fake?), I don’t even know what to really tell you. I’d just hope people don’t try to shame and deride others for what they find interesting. At this point, from my vantage point, I see a bunch of actual scientists, like, people with advanced degrees, screeching at others like “omg why are you whining and crying about the rat maze who cares omg it’s just some rats in a maze what a stupid thing to care about omg!” I mean, if this forum is supposed to just be “grrr Manchin!” over and over I dig wanting that but it sounds boring as fuck.
