Yes, but I’m also serious.
I did write an RFC. You are literally posting in the RFC that I wrote. The RFC is on whether or not we should ban David Sklansky.
You start an RFC
Rugby doesn’t follow procedure for an RFC
I suggest he should
You ask if we need to follow process this time
Bruce says we do and if you want to change procedure, start another RFC
you say we’re inside an RFC
Bruce wasn’t talking about this RFC, he was talking about doing something to change the process rather than just not follow it this time.
I think an RFC is supposed to be open for 3 days before an admin can create a poll in the RFC to approve the actual poll wording which will then be created in a different thread and kept open for an additional 10 days.
I mean an RFC on the general procedure for banning someone. I think it’s reasonable to think about how we want to do this for future cases.
Why? Given prevailing power dynamics in society, doesnt that just protect the powerful at the expense of the week?
For me this isnt about punishment, its about choosing not to associate with dangerous predators.
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This site is so fucking tedious these days.
David Sklansky has a decades long history of abusing women in various ways. He is a pompous ass and a moron with an overblown sense of importance. He is also a shitty poster who is even more tedious than the fucking permanent ongoing bickering here.
Like I really don’t care why we decide he isn’t welcome here. Snap banning RAIDS, who I legitimately cannot stand, and then and them hemming and hawing about whether a literal sex pervert and lifelong abuser of women ahould be allowed to post here is fucking insane. Reading back through the October 2020 thread the people defending him should be embarrassed.
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Have updated to two weeks.
I feel this is an obvious and uncontroversial ban, much like horse porn spammers. Seems thats not the consensus. So ill let this play out.
I think RAIDS was shit-posting here? I wanted Inso banned for his work at 2+2, but stood down because people argued that only his posting here should matter.
I mean he was. Sklansky is a career shit poster too as well as all the other gross stuff.
Due process is, in theory, one way that we protect the weak from the powerful. This can become tedious when we deal with “obvious” cases, but this doesn’t mean it’s not worth crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s.
That some powerful people can use legal trickery to avoid or delay punishment does not mean that due process is wrong. It may just mean that that particular process is flawed and needs fixing.
I don’t think this should be a ban-worthy offense.
What about posting rape fantasies?
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NBZ already posts those every time he reports a poker hand.
Neither do I for the record. My point was there is nothing redeeming about him at all.
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Depends on how explicit?
If we want a community-moderated site, then we should want to establish these standards together. There are different ways to go about that and it’s clear that setting such standards requires someone driving the action rather than hoping they arise naturally from vigorous debate.
If we’re banning people based on their moral character from previous forums then we should probably ban posters that supported George Zimmerman and Darren Wilson.
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It doesn’t matter at all whether Sklansky gets banned or not. He hasn’t even posted in months. I have a fundamental disagreement with the idea that the way to deal with someone or something upsetting is to reconfigure the world such that you don’t have to be exposed to it anymore. If the upset comes in the form of something disruptive to discussion, that’s different.
To me the relevant question here is simply “is it a good idea to be dragging 13-year old shit up on Unstuck so we can debate the morality of posters” and the answer is “no”. The question of what Sklansky deserves is of no interest to me. The entire idea that if someone “deserves” to be banned and yet is not banned, that’s a problem, has no basis in reality. People deserve to be banned to the extent that they create problems for the forum.
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It’s not like he was doxxed. He’s a public figure. Totally ignoring it feels wrong.
If we found out Osama Bin Laden was lightly posting here on occasion it would honestly be really strange to just ignore that. “9/11 was almost 20 years ago!”
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My experience with Sklansky is only my interactions with him the politics forum which was he’d post something vaguely oddball, reply to a few posts, and then disappear.
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