Yes. I don’t think that was good, so I’m trying to find a more democratic solution.
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Seems like a good function for the independent judiciary that wookie voted against.
I can’t speak for Wookie, but I didn’t vote in the judiciary poll because I don’t think it is well structured. If that’s supposed to be a binding poll, then I would vote no, even though I think having arbitrators is a good idea.
My only concern is that this will could create a lot of polling and work for moderators. But then really, how often are we gonna draft major rules and stuff? Probably not often. if someone is willing to do the extra mod work, I think if we’re gonna rule by poll you absolutely need some kind of standard, as was demonstrated the last several days.
One side will complain about too many polls and just want mods to make decisions. Another side will complain that the mods are making too many unilateral decisions. Someone’s gonna be pissy no matter what.
I just don’t see any other sane way to do this other than what wookie’s proposed. I wanna make this thread a frickin banner, I think it’s that important.
Could be way wrong though, whatever. This is starting to get tiresome.
It’s hard to tell how serious that poll was, but I think it’s a very good idea. Since it’s very hard to tell how serious it is, no votes seem pretty understandable
meb’s proposal in another thread is worth considering. he seems to have put a lot of thought into it, and it could be a good starting point for discussion.
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Mostly, y’all are too serious and need to understand that you won’t get it right the first time. Have the mods make some draft rules and updown vote them. Start with rules on making rules.
Ez clap?
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Both of your polls are bad because they use loaded language. Moderator “for life” and “anyone putting up whatever they want whenever they want” are terms meant to make the opposing view look bad.
Some people want this forum to operate on a consensus basis, rather than majority rule. I suggest more polls should use a Likert scale if intended to gauge public opinion, rather than trying to force people into binary decisions.
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feedback in that thread can help flesh out the concept.
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is this a bad question lol
it’s necessary to ignore me and treat me like shit because we need to focus on the encroaching horde of 100+ alt right posters suddenly coming in and voting in bad rules. that’s the real crisis. not a fully autonomous moderator class, which is what precipitated this conversation. the timing is a coincidence.
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when did I say that?
edit: sorry. That was exactly my point and why I was mad though. Wookie wanted the power to word the poll and didn’t want me to have it. Which was kind of annoying!
He’s saying both your poll and Wookie’s poll are bad because they both used loaded language. The second quote is from Wookie’s poll.
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That’s sorta what I’m trying to do here, and I think we should nail down timeframes for RFCs and proper votes in this system.
How long should an RFC be open prior to voting on a rule proposal?
- No particular time frame
- At least a few days
- At least a week
- At least two weeks
- A month or more
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How long should a rule vote be left open?
- No particular time frame
- At least a few days
- At least a week
- At least two weeks
- A month or more
0 voters
it’s hard to tell how serious you’re being sometimes, that’s all
Right now, what I’ve put forth in this thread has nothing to do with the existing moderators being subject to new referenda or not. If you feel like they should, I think that’s reasonable, but maybe let’s establish our process and then use it to put forth whether or not any of the existing mods who wish to continue on should be subject to a new vote.
i try to express myself in a non-boring way because i like to have fun posting, but an independent judiciary is an objectively good idea and i’m the only forum member qualified to be chief justice
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I know what you’re doing and think it’s much needed, but I was just saying that if you think people are ignoring you or something, they probably just can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. Everyone is very srs business in the thread. Lol. Like I couldn’t really tell for a few posts if you were or not, but I am a little dense and not so good at reading.
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My suggestion would be to have Judges make the poles based on some clear rules that people agree to. This way the people enforcing the day to day rules are separated from this task which is going to have a lot of emotions attached to.
Right. I couldn’t believe that people ignored that thread or voted so heavily against the idea. Judge Dredd mod is inflammatory language, don’t you know. Non serious! It’s possible I’m just bitter because my incredibly good Julius Ceasar pontifex maximus post only got seven likes. Seven fuckin likes.
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It’s not your imagination jmakin, it’s like supreme court pretend time up in here.
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