Presidential Debate Thread: Take 2 (Tonight at 9 PM Eastern)

My wife and younger son have never watched a debate in their lives and are all worked up for tonight. They made me promise to at least try to watch.

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If she doesnā€™t bring up that he recently admitted in an interview that he did lose to Biden , I am not voting, fuck it.

She should pivot on every answer back to this point.
Repeat it all night .

This is the headline no matter what happens.

Heā€™s gonna lie, bully, insult, mock, and babble. Sheā€™s gonna get flustered once or twice.

Iā€™ll let you figure out what will be the story of the debate.

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Feels like another no-win situation for Kamala but I would love to be wrong.

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Iā€™d go with an even mix of stupid, elderly, and rapist. If she doesnā€™t say ā€œI prosecuted hundreds of rapists just like youā€ ten times, I dunno wtf sheā€™s thinking.

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Kamala attacking Trump personally would probably be a huge mistake, despite all the cheers it would get from people that are already going to vote for her

I canā€™t tell who is serious so maybe some of this is whooshing over my head but calling him stupid and a rapist, while true, will absolutely not help her.

Just fucking tell people what youā€™re gonna do for them

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Thereā€™s no way to debate someone with no principles. There can be no ā€œgotchaā€ moment with trump because nothing he says or does really matters to him or any of his supporters.

ā€œYouā€™re not pro law and order, youā€™re a criminal presidentā€, does nothing. His definition of law and order is brutalizing his enemies, it has nothing to do with rules written in a law book. His definition of a criminal president is a nonwhite president. None of his supporters ever cared about law and order and classified emails, itā€™s literally just empty words they parrot to get what they want

Anything negative you can say about him, heā€™s already spun an alternate definition of and 70 million americans have already bought in whole hog.

Heā€™s been anointed as the patron saint of capitalism. Literally ā€œcatholicsā€ are saying ā€˜fuck the pope Iā€™m following this hateful doofus, the pope is the one who is wrong.ā€™

But yeah Iā€™m absolutely watching. Got a big bucket of popcorn ready

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Calling him a rapist is not going to be appealing for 98% of voters, and is absolutely going to open the door to the insane conversation of ā€œWell, actually, he wasnā€™t found guilty of rape. He was found liable for sexual assault in a civil trial, and the jury in that civil trial found him not liable for rape.ā€ Trump has already sued about this and I really donā€™t think thereā€™s any upside in using that word at all in the debate.

I basically agree with this. She should just go over how sheā€™s going to improve things.

There will be opportunities to throw in a couple ā€œinsultsā€ which are in reality just accurate depictions of his past behavior/convictions etc. She should take those opportunities if they arise naturally, but she shouldnā€™t just call him a rapist left and right.

In my opinion. What do I know though. I have no idea what sways these mythical undecideds

well surely nobody is hiring me for political consultation, but Iā€™d go with ā€œfuck another porn star you elderly rapistā€ until i was blue in the face. But sure, go with the things that the dems will (not) do for regular folk. none of it matters anyhow.

Counterpointā€”dems are beat down, weā€™ve had to vote for Sleepy Joe and Hilary with Tim Kaine and Kerry. We want someone with fire in the bellyā€”a fighter. Iā€™d love to see her go after him. But, you could be right that that is not the best strategy.

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They have gone high in every single decision like this in my memory. Were people talking about Obamaā€™s inspiring speech or his :raised_hands: motion? Letā€™s try that once maybe, see what happens.

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Plus like, you canā€™t debate in good faith when one dude is saying that schools are going to take your kid and chop off their dick behind your back. We just donā€™t live in the same universe, so fuck those weirdo aliens.

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If nothing you can say about Trump matters, whatā€™s the game plan if you have to go through the motions of a debate? Just ignore him? Itā€™s going to look weird standing next to a bucket of shit while you pretend heā€™s not there.

Iā€™m sure sheā€™ll try to appeal to centrists and traditional Republican voters and say she wants more cops and more border patrol.

Wish we could bet against that number lol.

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Fighting against Trump is the wrong fight. Everyone already knows Orange Man Bad. Fight for the people.

(Of course we know that Dems donā€™t do that, but itā€™d be better than hammering Orange Man Bad for the third fucking presidential election in a row)

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I hope she just talks about coconut trees the whole time

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Not every decision, the only part of the 2020 debates I remember is Bidenā€™s ā€œwill you shut up, man?ā€ so anecdotally things like that are awesome.

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