So are the scary Antifa thugs on vacation or what happened to them Donny?
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That’s bad (and the first article is lol derpy), but it happened a month and a half ago and is not what the tweet claims.
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That’s the kind of thing, if the ACLU or whoever can’t stop it, that Jefferson was getting at with that thing about refreshing of the tree of liberty.
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I read your bullets at the bottom first and I gotta say this is a lot less bad than I expected. I would continue more dialog. Find sources.
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So, three national Guardsmen, walking down the street, wishes one of them “good morning” and you told him to Fuck Off, and you puffed yourself about it to your brother who told you were wrong, so you gave him a Fuck Too.
You’re brother was right - you were an asshole. You know have a conformation on you being an asshole. Congratulations.
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck
Here’s what you’re not understanding-and I’m meaning this in the most neutral, trying to be helpful way I possibly can in this day and age:
White folks don’t live in the same America that black folks do. White people don’t get choked out on the street for passing a counterfeit $20 bill. White folks don’t get shot to death in their own home on mistaken identity like Breonna Taylor did. Or chased down and shot while jogging.
And these aren’t a handful of isolated cases. This kind of thing has been going on forever.
If you don’t live in a city, in a mixed race neighborhood, you might not have actually seen that with your own eyes, I get it. I grew up in small towns, and my concepts of race were much different. Now I live in East Hyde Park, Mannheim Park actually. Right off 39th Street between Troost and Paseo. I own a three story brick shirtwaist on a big double lot.
Now that I’ve lived in mid-town Kansas City for 25 years, I see things very differently. I see every day how I’m treated versus how they are, and especially from Police-but not JUST from the Police. At the corner store. From other neighbors who haven’t been here as long but the awesome old houses drew them here. I know that my black neighbor next door, when he gets pulled over has a very different set of fears than I do. I’m just going to get a ticket. He might get shot. He’s a retired educator, worked for the school system for 30 years and owns his own home. I’m the rock-and-roller with the history of questionable leisure-time activies. I’ve had the cops called to the house exactly once in 25 years, and they told us to keep it down at 4 am.
It’s really not hyperbole; it’s very real. And a lot of America that lives in the suburbs or small towns have no idea. To them, black folks in the city are all dope slinging gang bangers or on welfare. That’s like saying all small town folks are racist rednecks. To the Police, a lot of them see the black people that way too.
When the athletes kneel or wear shirts or some other visible protest, it’s SUPPOSED to make you uncomfortable. It’s SUPPOSED to make you think about things. They’re using their celebrity to draw attention to something very important. When you ignore that long enough, you’re going to get riots. Even then, most of the protesters over the last few weeks have been peaceful, with handfulls of people that are taking advantage by looting and destroying. And in several already documented cases, some of those have been white people that have very different reasons for being there. Some to stoke the racial violence, some just to loot free shit. In my first hand experience, I’ve seen KCPD react with violence to people just marching and chanting. The news is full of Police overreactions, you don’t have to look far.
There’s clearly a Police culture that needs to change. A certain amount of brutality has just been accepted for far too long. It’s more than just ‘a few bad apples’. This isn’t about politics. It’s way, way more than that.
So when they kneel during the anthem, you can listen, and you can consider why…or you can wait and have race riots. it’s an escalation, and it’s inevitable.
And if it makes you uncomfortable…well, yeah, that’s the point. You can react by saying, “I don’t like this.” or you can learn WHY they’re doing so. Just because you’ve not had first hand experience doesn’t mean it isn’t real. We’re all Americans, but some of us live in a different America.
I’ve been staying away from CP during all of this, and I probably will retreat again, but I just wanted to say that I’m so goddamned proud of Patrick and Tyrann. Not just for this public service announcement but just the quality of men they are. Drew Brees isn’t being muffled, he’s being criticized-and while that criticism is well founded nobody’s going to run him out of the league. He reconsidered how his statement was being taken and clarified. He’s been a fine man for a long time, and his image will recover.
That’s a long post, and many of you won’t read it, or flame away and disregard. That’s fine. It’s MY truth, as a longtime observer ‘imbedded’ if you will for decades in and around the black community in the city. It would be my hope that you would at least consider what I’ve had to say.
Chiefsplanet has allowed a few threads on the Floyd/NFL controversy to stand in the Lounge (not-DC cesspool) and there have been some pretty good posts like this.
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Shrug. At least I wasn’t carrying a gun.
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As others noted this does not appear to be true.
I would say :
“Okay Boomer!”
You do you. I don’t see utility. Now, most PD, yep a hearty fuck you or asshole is likely indicated.
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The problem is that won’t matter because he has already said we are no worse than the rest of humanity. He needs to also explain why his target goal for himself and others in this country is just being mediocre.
Agreed. I’m seeing a lot of cop families on facebook complaining about how tough it is for them and all I can think is good. They should be uncomfortable being tools of oppression. Maybe if they are uncomfortable enough they’ll actually want to address the root cause of why people hate them.
edit: I will note I have a bit of sympathy for the national guard, MPs, etc. They joined to fight foreign people not police US cities. They also face much more severe consequences for disobeying an order and can’t quit/refuse the assignment. That said, they seem to be enjoying the opportunity to beat protesters as much as the cops do.
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I’d also point out that I’m fairly certain it’s either going to the NG or the military to crow-bar Trump out of the White House on Jan 20th, cause he’s never going quietly. So far the military and ( mostly) the guard on side. I’m like to try to keep them that way.
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Where who you might make a difference - which I freely agree. We had the NG here for about a week - pretty good interactions after the demonstrations, nothing in the was of riots (after the first 2 days, with PD only) - I’d be much with dealing with the NG - I think they’re a much less likelihood to blow up into a MSP.
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Hobbes I love you too and I’m probably an asshole, sure, but these dudes are a straight up occupying force in my neighborhood. I don’t owe them common courtesy and if I make them feel bad that’s a good thing.
A guy walking down the street with a rifle is a threat. And it’s not even implied, they’re using force against peaceful protesters. I feel less safe with these fools walking down the street. Him talking to me at all like we’re cool or something, nah.
Also I didn’t really puff myself up to my brother. I did more puffing by posting it here. He asked me what’s happening because I’m sure it sounded weird to him that I’m telling someone to fuck off. So I told him.
Not gonna lie fuck off is my standard response if a cop talks to me and has been for years. I’m not gonna parse out some strange difference you guys are drawing between the NG and cops. Dude is a cop right now, full stop. Fuck him.
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It’s an all volunteer armed forces. Only the willfully ignorant would imagine they aren’t signing up for what they signed up for. If they managed to have Private Benjamin-ed themselves into a sad… that’s all on them. Just like the fool doctors and nurses who thought they’d just get some extra $$$ for one weekend a month and two weeks out camping a year… and got shipped off to Afghanistan and Iraq. That’s all on them too.
Fuck deifying “the troops”. No fucking military recruiting in the schools or colleges.
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If the best thing to do when nazis show up walking in our streets is to tell them to fuck off.
Then it seems that when soldiers show up in our streets to counter protests against police brutality and white supremacy, we should tell them to fuck off as well.
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It seems like a reasonable extrapolation from the articles posted. Completely up to the cops as to what constitutes a reasonable distance which can assume is a distance so far away to not ID cops and not hear what’s happening.
All good. Our interactions in our area were appropriate and I wasn’t excited to have half our down town trashed or burned for good reason - but obviously different situations for different places. And generically I’d rather deal with the military/NG than some of the disgraceful various PD stuff we’ve seen
All good
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