Her VPIPs for her 3 appearances (all high stakes) were 22%, 32%, and 27% (in “The Hand” stream), so the 20% VPIP claim doesn’t seem accurate.
If those games are mostly 7-8 handed then 27% is fairly active.
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Speaking of wacky calls of all-in bets, people undoubtedly remember the guy who called an all-in river bet with 44 on a AA2KK board and won (the other guy had 33).
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That’s not how this works. You don’t get to make a list of every possible way someone could theoretically be signaled that is limited only by your imagination and present that for refutation. You need to bring evidence that it was actually happening, and afaik the only thing you posted was a compression artifacted video claiming the lights were changing where there didn’t appear to be any lights changing.
This is absolutely nothing like the Stones case at all. There were tons of hands there, and when condensed into a highlight reel it was immediately obvious to everyone here seeing it for the first time that he was cheating. The proof of cheating was in the hand histories, and it was a stone cold lock with only the exact method not being completely certain (but mostly certain). You don’t have that here. There is one suspicious hand that would be the dumbest implementation of cheating of all time, and then a bunch of other hands where she wasn’t cheating.
Can you even present a single coherent cheating theory? Because you said the hand signals could be a cryptographic system of baseball signs but also you’ve said the microphone lights were toggling when they weren’t.
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So you’ve never seen an otherwise solid or even a tight player make a stupid play against a very aggressive opponent? That’s one of the benefits of the style!
It’s not J4o calling off that turn jam level “active.”
I mean it’s been over a week and nobody has posted any hand histories from her sessions that would be indicative in any way of being a whale.
Not like this or even close.
Perhaps because exactly zero people are claiming she is a whale! 🤷 she is a noob.
The public doesn’t have access to the necessary video to prove or disprove this possible method. You would need reverse camera angles. You don’t get to say it’s “debunked” with no proof, just like I don’t get to stay it’s “proof” without it being definitive.
There are fake money slots you can play to win real prizes, like at MyVegas.
I farted, does that count?
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She says she’s not a noob. She says she studies every day, and has been a serious player for 2+ years. She’s hired a PR team to try to push that she’s a pro. She’s branding herself as #thatPokerChick.
But you’ve handwaved all that away because it interferes with your defense of her, if she’s not a noob who doesn’t know what she’s doing and she didn’t misread her hand as J3, suddenly it’s nearly impossible to believe she’s innocent.
I’m not defending her. I couldn’t care less about her. She is clearly a nut. I’m defending logic.
There are two theories that seem pretty viable.
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Bryan relaying info to one or more players. The $15K supports this. There are a few plausible signaling methods, the mic packs would be the simplest - but there are others too. This doesn’t rule out other people signaling each other, too.
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Someone has some kind of RFID reader (or less likely an infrared barcode scanner) at the table. If it’s an RFID reader it’s probably near Garrett in particular, and they’re signaling Robbi/others either via hand/chip signals or some other method. The suspicious hand signals support this method, but could work within either theory.
I spoke to someone who knows a lot about this technology for an unrelated reason this week, and we discussed it. They said the range on the RFID chips isn’t significant, but that it’s possible it could be read within the length of the table, and likely it could be read within range of 1-2 seats at the table.
Maybe I’ve lost the thread here, but even if the cheater(s) knew Garrett’s cards, would they actually be signaling the turn to call in that spot? I’m not much of a poker player now, and never really was, but calling on the turn can’t be much more than 50/50, right?
You’d have to know Garrett’s cards and the cards to come to signal to make the call, no?
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Do you accept the idea that an innocent person in this spot could prioritize maximizing their personal brand and trying to portray themselves as smarter and better than they actually are over maximizing the number of people who think they are innocent?
I don’t think she’s a noob who doesn’t know what she’s doing, but I do think she’s someone who has tried to study but doesn’t understand the material she’s been studying. Like she knows what a blocker is, but probably can’t use the concept properly and can’t use what she’s learned about blockers to derive for herself how antiblockers matter.
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In reading people argue about this in various places on the internet, it’s clear there are some Garrett nut-huggers and some Robbi white knights who aren’t very logical in their reasoning. What is also clear is that there are some people who think that Robbi returning the money is absolutely the action of a guilty person and others who think that it is the action of an innocent person.
The best arguments on each side are logical, based on their assumptions about how an innocent person would act. The best analysis of the arguments being used should involve breaking down what is being said to get at the assumptions being made.
Anyways, Robbi has become the Amanda Knox of poker and I don’t even know what that analogy implies.
I asked for one theory though. I developed a theory early on that the 4h and 6c being switched was the snafu. That would have been extremely incriminating, but it turned out to be nothing. The claims you are making are unfalsifiable.
*Let me say it a better way. Provide as many theories as you want, but discretely write each one as a precise set of claims that can be tested. That’s how I approached 4h/6c because that could have been a game operator (Bryan) or possibly not him, and so I had to enumerate all of the ways that could play out.
There was a ton of hard evidence against Knox but none that I’m aware of against Robbi, so it’s not a great comparison.
Also not heard of her doing cartwheels when first accused of cheating.
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No, if they know his cards but not other folded hands they’re like 55%. If they know all folded hands they’re 47%. They’re being laid 1.6 to 1 on the call so it’s +EV regardless although their two best options would be call turn, jam river if he misses or just jam turn. But regardless of whether there was cheating, there was a lot of stupidity in play here.
Maybe, but once they realize the seriousness I would expect them to chart a much different course.
But in this case that doesn’t matter. She just needs to understand that he has a bunch of bluffs that smoke J4.
The constant lying is a huge red flag to me. She’s flip-flopped on some aspects repeatedly and been caught in several lies/mistruths. That makes innocence way less likely.
She and Rip also clearly soft played a hand with likely signals involved, and that makes it way less likely to be a mostly innocent soft play between friends. If they had signals worked out, it was for a bigger reason than not going hard at each other.
The comparison has nothing to do with guilt or evidence.