Yea it’s for sure a lot of fun if you’re just splashing around with a 90% VPIP and not caring about the results. 4 cards > 2 cards. I don’t know how anyone ever goes back to HE after playing tbh.
Wow, as someone considering jumping into the PLO waters, appreciate the Hwang rec. I own it and somehow got the impression that it was outdated.
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With how small the PLO player pool is in comparison, NLHE seems so soft when going back. Yes, you get bad spews players in PLO. But you still don’t get the same volume of fish and people obviously bust quicker when they’re bad.
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Yea when I see equities on HE hands and how far behind people get their money in, I get very jealous. We’ve had the same fish in our PLO games for years. They win occasionally. Keeps em coming back.
I would be shocked if there were any live HE crushers that put up hourlys comparable to the PLO endbosses in my part of the country. You have to drive 2+ hours to get a HE game bigger than 2/5 here.
The secret to live small stakes PLO is that it is really a preflop game. You’re often in multi-way pots where hands play themselves. Hwang gives you a good understanding of just what hands are playable preflop. His book has something like 20 pages on post-flop play.
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I find PLO easier than NL because I am more likely to have a good idea of where I am in a hand. It’s more challenging for me to put people on a range in NL. That being said, I had a better sense of when people are afraid once I went back to NL more last year and I became a much better bluffer.
The PLO player pool is very dedicated. Most of the donating action players who can afford to lose 20K/year at poker seem to gravitate towards it. A lot of times, they decide they only want to play PLO. If you play in a room which typically runs only one PLO table, I think you need to retain your ability to play NLHE because if you aren’t there starting the table, you run the risk of having to wait 4-5 hours for a seat to open.
PLO is deceptive to fish because they can pretty much think of one hand every session where they got it in good with the nuts or a strong draw and would be up, or at least even, if they one that hand. So, it takes them a lot longer to figure out that they are bad rather than just unlucky. Even then, they think they have a chance, because they can still fool themselves that they might be bad but there are other players who are clearly worse and they just have to beat one or two guys.
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It is incredibly outdated. Sure it will help players brand new to the game, but isn’t really all that relevant to modern online PLO cash.
Your time/money would be much better invested buying a basic $10/month to JNandez site or RunItOnce. JNandez has a series of videos on the transition from NLHE to PLO that would be particularly useful.
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This will probably get your coinbase account closed eventually. I’ve been using Blockchain as the middle man and then coinbase to my bank account for several hundred transactions without a hitch.
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Just withdrew a decent chuck using BTC. Gives me crazy anxiety that I did it right. Directly copied the wallet ID over, but still afraid I messed something up.
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I just did my first BTC withdrawal from Bovada yesterday (I’m using a ledger nano S) and it went thru in about 12 hours, got a confirmation email right as it went thru to the wallet, then I checked the wallet address on blockchain.com or blockonomics.co and confirmed it was in there
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Some mornings you log on to do something while you finish your coffee and end up sunrunning ~300 bbs above EV
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I’ve never joined any training site. I’ve been calculating calling ranges against standard push-fold charts. Am I duplicating work that those sites have already done and made available to their members?
Yes. In fact there is software to run this.
I’m working on making a call-fold chart against pushes because I am tired of constantly working it out on the fly in my head. I am familiar with software to calculate what your range should be in spots, but I don’t know if someone has compiled all of that into a form similar to push-fold charts. I haven’t found any, but I haven’t searched behind the paywall of a training site.
PokerCoaching.com (Jonathan Little’s site) has an app with a push/fold chart that includes calling ranges.
All the 5k events of the stadium series overlayed to some extend. Not sure that this clientele needed the free money. Sure Stars is their own site but running this parallel to the wsop online events doesnt seem that smart either unless you really want to give the middle finger to the competition.
That has some of what I am looking for, but I process information differently, so I think I will just continue building my own charts. It reminds me of back in the day when I thought using PokerStove to figure out equities in eight-way hands was much more interesting than figuring out the math for heads-up.
I’ve tried watching his free videos and I just can’t get into them. One problem is that a video format is not conducive to me learning. I retain information best when delivered via the written word.
just did a real classy slowroll with aa preflop final table of the sixteen six. elegant as fuck, you woulda loved it
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Everyone half decent memorized this stuff a decade ago. Its basic fundamentals.
I’ve got a lot of catchup. I’ve primarily been a cash game player and not a lot of NL. Push fold charts have been inapplicable to the majority of my tournament play.
I just feel so far behind that I sometimes think I should give up on NLHE. I wish there were more high-low split tournaments.