People doing mental gymnastics on Twitter and in the 2p2 thread to defend Jungle because they worship him is some A+ delusion. He’s a fucking scumbag.
This fucking douchebag.
“ Many of us have something special and subtle that we really pride ourselves in. For myself, since I was a child I had a lot of pride in my honor/integrity, meaning the alignment of my actions and words.”
https://medium.com/@jungleman12/hidden-hypocrisies-and-the-futility-of-judgment-c13dd3d1570f
lol what the fuck is that? Reads like something a recent grad of psych 101 would write in his new “wellness journal.” Ugh. What a douche.
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Jungle always struck me as the “anything to make a dollar” type.
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The dumb thing about this is just that Perkins is a nice guy! The naive nice guy type! He will give people free money! I had a close friend make a very large bet with him (my friend lost), that imo was easily achievable (weight loss bet).
Bill isn’t the dumbest guy in the world, but he’s a gigantic whale for the stakes he plays. To take advantage of him is just a really dumb long term move.
I was shocked when jungleman was outed because Perkins called the guy a hero and I’ve never found the guy remotely likeable. He’s always come across as a gigantic douchebag to me
Doug Polk comes across as a douchebag and is a hero to some. People like a winner.
I have a cousin who has Asperger’s and Jungleman reminds me a lot of him. Just a general unawareness of what is socially acceptable and can’t figure out what is acceptable on his own. I could totally see it being pretty easy to convince Jungleman it is acceptable to multi account.
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jungleman sucked out on me final table bubble of a tourney on full tilt in 2011 and ended up winning it for like 60k. that was nothing to him, why was he even there?? FUCK JUNGLEMAN
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He knows what he’s doing, he was involved in a massive scandal of a similar nature on 22 with Girah and Haseeb Qureshi. It’s just sadly a common part of the landscape for high-stakes poker.
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Far bigger than the Postle scandal if true!
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Seems like majority of 2p2 is defending or excusing jungle–man I figured all the scumbags who went from poker to crypto when that was the craze had cleaned up the poker world a bit but apparently it was only like 5% of them.
pretending to be someone else to gain a financial advantage is technically identity theft, but apparently lots of high stakes pros do it so it’s all fine. They’re all cheaters–seems like half of 2p2 would defend it if some pro live brought out a gun and just robbed the table and ran off.
Life is weird though when you see someone agree with you on an issue who’s a clear enemy of yours.
also lol perkins at calling that bigger than postle for attention–it’s 2020 you need video for that. (and of course that time he let dan play on his account on twitch though I don’t know who’s actually worse at the game so ?)
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They’re defending him because they’d all do it themselves.
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And because they are all Jungle dick riders
I’m not surprised. Poker is full of ethically questionable people. In live games, these people would be angle-shooters whenever they could get away with it.
I get why Perkins initially said this was bigger than Postle, something he has since backed down from. He felt personally betrayed by someone he considering a friend having Jungleman play on his account. It seems more real when it happens to you. Standard rich guy lack of empathy.
I can remember if Perkins said it or someone else did, but I was under the impression that Bilzarian played on his account in a HU match against an opponent who knew what was going on, so that feels different.
About a year ago I’m playing 2/5. Game is 6 handed, I’m in the 4 seat, villain in the 6 spot with nonone in the 5. Get in a big pot HU, 3b pf where I flop a set vs an obvious overpaid, cr flop, bomb turn, shove river. Think my river bet is ~$800 into a pot of maybe 1200. Player has tanked for 3+ Minutes, then pushes his entire stack towards mine sideways to where his entire stack is almost touching mine. He then tries to stare me down for another minute, and when I give nothing off calls and mucks.
Obviously go to the floor after and complain, but that was the grossest one I’ve ever seen.
oh, angleshoot stories?
I saw a bunch dealing the WSOP, but this one stood out because the floor decision was just flagrantly wrong.
2/5 NL in the pavilion. we’re 3-handed on the flop, players are seat 2, seat 4, and seat 9, with the action in that order (BTN in seat 1). Seat 2 checks, Seat 4 bets $25., Seat 9 raises to $65. Seat 2 folds. Seat 4 now takes 10 red chips and stacks them very deliberately on top of another full stack of reds (so it’s one tall stack of 30 red chips) and slowly pushes it out to where his original $25 is sitting and holds it there for a beat. During that beat, seat 9 says “all in”. Seat 9 pushes his stack out a bit to show that he had ~$500 behind, all in reds so there’s no question.
Now seat 4 starts the arguing that he hadn’t released his stack yet so it wasn’t a real raise, so seat 9 can’t go all in. Me, the dealer, says that it was clear forward motion and the raise stands. He makes me call the floor. I do it because it’s so obvious what the decision will be that i don’t even care. I know we aren’t supposed to judge intent, but there is no sane person who would ever read his actions as anything other than a clear intent to raise (or angleshoot as the case ended up being). The entire table was bitching at the guy, too.
Floor comes over, i tell what happened, and she says Seat 2 is committed…to a min raise. First of all, what? So guy pays his $130 (which is only $45 less than what he would have owed had the floor not been a giant idiot). He then immediately picks up and leaves. As he’s leaving, seat 5 (who wasn’t even in the hand) yells after him, “yeah, take your angleshooting ass elsewhere!” Public shaming ftw.
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That’s just an atrocious ruling.
Did seat 4 somehow think they were playing chess? 
LOL, I have no idea.
It was literally one of the worst rulings I’ve ever seen, as a player or dealer. I legitimately sat there dumbfounded for a second as I tried to process it. Also, I was pissed off because it made me look bad for my initial action of making him commit the full raise (even though I was right. ARGH).