Yeah. This is vs the only other player over $500, only other player that is definitely a winner in the game so it’d a weird spot. They could even have some Kxxxcc stuff I’m just crushing.
I’m probably flatting deeper and ripping with that SPR. Block the straight, over pair, NFD, wheel draw. GII
Yeah other than aa56 it’s the second best combo possible, feels bad if we are just ever folding the very top of our range vs a decent thinking player.
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Man, I just don’t get Omaha at all
Obligatory repost we have all seen multiple times
EuroRounders
Michel (voiceover): “If you can’t find the boorish American hold’em player at the table within half an hour, you are the boorish American hold’em player.”
TITLE/CREDITS. This entire movie is in black and white, with subtitles.
Michel (voiceover): “This game is really scummy, and well above what I can afford to play. My entire bankroll is riding on this one session going well. This is Teddy CIA’s place, where they only play Pot Limit Omaha, the most sophisticated game in Europe.”
- Michel knocks on the window -
Teddy CIA: “You want poker, or whore?”
Michel: “Poker. Give me three stacks of high, elitist society.”
Michel: “I raise.”
Teddy CIA: “It’s a position raise. I call.”
- The flop comes 5-7-A, with two diamonds -
Michel: “I bet the pot.”
Teddy CIA: “I raise the pot.”
Michel: “I reraise the pot.”
Teddy CIA: “I reraise the pot.”
Michel: “Pot.”
Teddy CIA: “Pot.”
Michel: “Pot.”
Teddy CIA: “Pot.”
Michel: “Pot.”
Teddy CIA: “Pot.”
Michel (voiceover): “I sit back and think. I have three aces - the best possible hand. I want him to think I’m debating a call, but really I’m just thinking about Monte Carlo, and whatever the [censored] is in Monte Carlo.”
Michel: shrugs “Okay, well, I re-pot it, I’m all in, because I don’t think you have a pair.” winks at the camera
Teddy CIA: “Who are you winking at? It doesn’t matter, I call.”
Michel (voiceover): “I know before he even says it.”
Teddy CIA: “I have 8-6-4-3 with two diamonds, for a wrap straight draw and a flush draw, which is a favorite over your top set.”
-
Turn is a King. River is a 2 which gives Teddy CIA an ace-to-five straight for the win. -
-
Michel sits there, shell-shocked. -
Joey Croissant: “Come on, I’ll get you a whore.”
Michel (voiceover): “Well, that sucked. Since then, I’ve sworn off of poker and made my living as a roadside prostitute for boorish American tourists. Hopefully, I can pay my way through law school that way. I can always find games, though. I could turn this truck onto the road and be at the Taj in 19 and a half hours.”
Michel (voiceover): “I’m here to pick my friend Worm up from prison.”
- Worm walks out of prison -
Michel: “Worm! It’s wonderful to see you!”
- They kiss each other passionately on the mouth -
Michel: “How was prison?”
Worm: “I was brutally sodomized on a regular basis.”
Michel: “Look…Croissant, I never told you this, but about a year ago, I was playing poker at the Casino des Atlantes, and Marcel Luske walks in. He sits down at the 50/100 pot limit game. And, I mean, the whole place stops, right? Just watching this guy play. After a while there isn’t a ******ed European gambling game going, because everybody’s just, you know, watching this guy.”
- Joey Croissant nods -
Michel: “So you know what I did? I sat down.”
Joey Croissant: “No way, you need at least 300,000 euros to sit down at a game like that. Such bad financial management is typical of a boorish American!”
- Joey Croissant and Michel laugh for twenty-six minutes -
Michel: “Right, okay, but seriously, I played for an hour, doing nothing but folding. Then I won a huge pot.”
Joey Croissant: “Aces? Kings? Ace-King doublesuited? Suited aces? High connectors? Middle doublesuited connectors? Two big pair?”
Michel: “Rags.”
Joey Croissant: “That’s probably fine too, you’re only like a 48/52 dog.”
Michel: “I raised. And he came over the top of me, like I was a boorish American. I re-popped it. He potted it again. I think for like two seconds and then I re-pot it.”
Joey Croissant: “Jesus [censored] Christ, how much money did you have?”
Michel: “After I bet I would quietly slide my chips back toward my stack, nobody noticed. Anyway, he thinks for a while, looks at me, checks his cards again, and he mucks. I take it down. And then he looks at me and says, ‘I have to know. Did you have it?’ And I said, ‘I’m sorry Marcel, I can’t remember.’”
Joey Croissant: “Face!”
Michel: “I know, totally. Anyway, based on that one hand, I felt confident gambling for all the money I had, at one time.”
Law Professor: “I am a Jew.”
Michel: “I hate you.”
Teddy CIA: “We play, heads up, Pot Limit Omaha, 25 and 50 blinds, until one of us has it all?”
Michel: “Out of sheer curiosity, you realize you’re giving up like boat loads of equity by agreeing to gamble for money that’s effectively yours anyway, right? That you could just not let me play, and then kill me and take what I have?”
Teddy CIA: “I know, but I am a boorish American!”
- Michel and Teddy CIA laugh for seventy-two minutes -
Michel (voiceover): “I pick up Ace-Ace-Jack-Ten doublesuited.”
Michel: “I raise the pot.”
Teddy CIA: “Very aggressive. But, I reraise the pot.”
Michael (voiceover): “He’s representing Ace-Ace-King-King doublesuited, the only hand better than mine. I can’t call, and give him a chance to catch. I can only fold…if I believe him.”
Michel: “I reraise, I’m all in.”
Teddy CIA: “Take it down.”
- The flop reads 10-9-5, with two spades -
Michel: “Pot.”
Teddy CIA: “Pot.”
Michel: “Pot.”
Teddy CIA: “Pot.”
Michel: “Pot.”
Teddy CIA: “Pot.”
Michel: “Pot. I’m all in.”
Teddy CIA: “Alright, I call. What do you have?”
Michel: “Jack high flush draw and middle set.”
Teddy CIA: “Wrap, with a king high flush draw.”
Michel: “Boy, I sure hope my 5:4 edge holds up, otherwise I am going to die.”
- Turn is an off-suit 5, giving Michel an unbeatable hand. But the river is the ace of spades anyway, because it’s always the [censored] ace of spades. -
Teddy CIA: “He beat me. Pay that man his money. His silly, silly-looking European money.”
Cab Driver: “Where are you off to?”
Michel: “Monte Carlo.”
Cab Driver: “Good luck.”
Michel: “Shut the [censored] up.”
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What don’t you get
What hand ranges do you think make sense for both players here?
Villain in LJ opens to 15. SB calls. Hero 3bets to 80. Both call.
Flop is A65r. SB checks. Hero bets 75. Villain calls. SB folds.
Turn is Q 
, putting two diamonds out. Hero checks. Villain bets 100. Hero check raises to 500. Villain thinks and calls.
River is T , putting the backdoor flush out. Hero insta-jams for 650 effective. Villain tank calls.
I play a lot of mix games on private site. Games haven’t been that great so trying to get back into plo.
I was lost on river on what to do.
2-5 plo heads up he has 1700 I cover. I pot size bet on button with TcAcTh9d flop 8c2d3c I bet 25. Turn is 9s they check, I bet 50 and he check raises to 120. I call and river is Ts. He leads into me for 320.
His strategies are always finding the way to rationalize the weakest most passive line.
Agree. One of my biggest leaks when I first transitioned from Holdem to plo was spots like these where I might flat in Holdem. In plo I find the best option is often to get it in, accept the variance, but maximize your opponents willingness to gamble with incorrect equity. People tend to mess up SPR decisions so much in live plo.
Hard to see what QJ and 67 combos villain has. Of course it’s low limit plo so they are possible. In this spot I would make my decision based on player but I’d lean to raising here as your hand should be best most of the time with his CR then lead line. Feel like you are going to be shown a smaller set a lot.
Without the CR on the turn I’d be more inclined to just call in this spot as players dont thin value lead after call call line.
His CR really makes me think he has a made hand on turn as players don’t semi bluff draws on turn that much. You beat all made hands on turn.
1/2 5 card while waiting for my NL game. I bought in for the min ($200) cause I’m not good/experienced at this game.
$5 to enter the pot, we’re 5 handed. I’m in the HJ JcJs9c9s4s and limp. CO BTN limp, SB pot to $25, BB calls, I call, one player behind calls
Flop ($105) Ts7h3s x BB pots for $105 I jam for $175?
I’m assuming this is a playable hand in a 1/2 5 card game but towards the bottom end? Like I’m thinking I’d play any two pair with JJ+ and maybe like TT77+?
This seems like exactly the trouble flop though as a newcomer, where I flop a decent amount of equity but only have 3 nut outs. I need like 38% and I should be in the 45% range against all the TTxxx that doesn’t block me too hard and like 40% ish vs. a nut flush draw with two overs. But if he has top set and a bigger flush draw I’m around 18% I think? Assuming I’m estimating the equities right, I need him to only have the TT and bigger draw like 10% of the time. Is that reasonable?
Seems like there should be some flips in there like T987 too right?
Felt like I just had to re-pot and gamble here and hope not to run into the set+bigger flush draw combo.
Results:
He has TTAsQsX and I’m smoked, brick turn red 8 river. Oops!
Next hand in the BB I get KK333 with one suit, UTG brings in for $5, BTN and SB call, I call? (20) K87r I pot and the btn calls. (60) 3cc I pot and the btn calls (180) 2x I pot and she folds. Smaller on the river maybe? I figured 88 and 77 are like never folding in a live 1/2 game, and draws are folding regardless, so might as well pot it?
On the button one person brings it in, I have JJAT4 with one non-nut suit, which seems playable on the button in this game? SB and BB call (20) KJ4hh check to me, pot, SB calls (60) Qx x x Kx he checks, I bet $30? Felt like I had to go smaller than a PSB here as I need straights to call.
Results:
He calls after about 10 seconds, mhig.
On the first board, you’re 36.93% against TTxx and 17.97% against TT with A 
5 . 40.26% with TT and the 5 2 :diamonds. You’re 34.26% against A K Q T and 43.45% against A K 5 2 .
Your hand is playable for cheap in late position, but the 4 dangler that also gives you three to a suit is not good.
I guess I call with KK333. Smaller sets might find a fold. If those sets sometimes raise on the flop, then your bet-sizing should target two pair hands. Some people advocate pot-pot-half-pot lines. I usually don’t bet pot on most streets these days.
Some people will play almost 100% of hands OTB in an unlimped pot. Bet-fold is reasonable on the river. Check behind is reasonable against an OMC-type. What bet size do you think reps a bluff by missed hearts?
Pretty sure you don’t want to voluntarily put money in pre flop with hands that can’t scoop.
Oh is this 5 card high only? The fuck?
Is that five card with Holdem rules? You can use any amount of cards in your hand! If so wtf.
Yes 5 card high only. I’m bad but not bad enough to play JJ994 and KK333 at hi-low lol…
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No it’s just 5 card PLO high.
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I literally just realized I turned the nut straight in the second hand. 
As far as I can tell, 5-card PLO high is centered around Baltimore/DC because bad players there really liked it. It seems to be spreading, unfortunately. I hate it because I feel like you have to play a fewer percentage of hands than 4-card. Also, cheaters love it on the apps because you can share more cards.