Ahhh ok forgot you were the one that posted the SBC thing. And I posted about the Milwaukee thing (and I think RC did too) but I probably see a lot of the stuff from the Chapo reddit from people I follow on twitter (never go on reddit). I saw it being talked about on my feed and then the TrueAnon twitter posted about it too. Since I don’t go on reddit I don’t have too much of an opinion on the issue but seems like the “reasons” it was deleted were dumb anyways
Preet’s latest: “I was wrong about Bill Barr. He is arrogant and doesn’t care if it looks like he’s doing the bidding of the president.”
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Hindsight is always 20/20!
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Dan Carlin got Tom Hanks on his podcast.
Top that Joe Rogan
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“Swingers” Rewatchables dropped today. Good but not great.
Taibbi on the new Chapo and folks, it’s a stinker. Some terrible mischaracterisations of police abolition and very weak-tea validations of cancel-culture handwringing. There aren’t even any decent riffs if you’re tempted by that prospect.
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It’s like a weird attempt to be super contrarian. “That’s why I still get the Financial Times, they know what’s up”
I haven’t heard that whole ep yet but I’m sure that was Amber, she has mentioned that she reads the FT approximately one billion times.
Hell yeah. I normally don’t like his interviews much but I’m gonna have to give this a listen.
I’m surprised at how much they talk about history given that he was there to advertise his upcoming film. I mean the film is barely mentioned.
Yeah I thought it was great. I want to watch the movie now, but no way I’m getting apple tv+
I finished listening to it this morning (oz time, it’s 10pm now). It was Will, Amber and Taibbi and they were all pretty much on the same page about everything.
I remember their takes on police abolition better than the cancel culture stuff. Taibbi has written two recent books on basically the subject of the dysfunctional justice system in America (“The Divide”, which I have read and recommend, it’s about how laws are enforced on the working class and not on elites, and “I Can’t Breathe”, about Eric Garner, which I have not read). He talked a bit about how it’s a complicated issue, being a cop is a working-class job, some people go into it with good intentions, etc. They talked about how the data shows that in poor communities, a lot of people want more policing, not less (saying stuff like “if this were a white community, they’d police it better”). Taibbi mentioned something I didn’t know, which is that Garner had called the police himself on someone else the day before. Taibbi described Garner as “caught between two gangs”, with one of them being the police. Amber’s take was similar to mine in the Abolishing Police thread, that abolishing police is an unworkable position, basically just a slogan, and that the unwillingness of activists to try to explain their position to others was evidence of how unserious a movement it was. It was kind of interesting to me because Amber is a Marxist but she was like, please sign on for doing basic social democratic reforms or gtfo. Like basically my thinking which is that if you’re asked what to do about the police in America and your answer is “well step one, a revolution to overthrow capitalism” then I have no interest in talking to you about it.
The cancel culture stuff, I generally agreed with it and I’m sure it got the haters mad, but it was fairly boring and boilerplate, you can just read Taibbi’s recent piece if you want his thoughts, that part of the ep was mostly just the hosts agreeing with him.
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He agrees with their takes while the majority of listeners do not.
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To me, the episode committed the unforgivable sin of not being interesting, humorous, or insightful. They spend the whole time pointing out that yes, sometimes the police do good things and yes, sometimes people do get canceled.
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I normally only listen to their Monday episodes now.
Wasn’t it defund the police? Not abolish the police.
Going #NotAllCops probably wasn’t going to go well with them.
Haven’t heard the newest podcast yet but their position is pretty sensible based on your descriptions of it.
Posted in covid thread but want discussion here. It’s a podcast about a potential American civil war. He goes over a lot of history on how these things happen and explains how things are boliing over. He’s also a journalist who has seen a lot of stuff first hand. It’s been pretty good so far but I’m only on the 2nd episode.
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Listened to this podcast before and I enjoyed it. Robert Evans has been live streaming from the Portland protests for at least a week now.
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This is what it was for me. I don’t agree with every Chapo position but at least when they do their bit it’s got good riffs, humor, etc. The episode was just whiny.