Yeah I thought it was great. I want to watch the movie now, but no way I’m getting apple tv+
I finished listening to it this morning (oz time, it’s 10pm now). It was Will, Amber and Taibbi and they were all pretty much on the same page about everything.
I remember their takes on police abolition better than the cancel culture stuff. Taibbi has written two recent books on basically the subject of the dysfunctional justice system in America (“The Divide”, which I have read and recommend, it’s about how laws are enforced on the working class and not on elites, and “I Can’t Breathe”, about Eric Garner, which I have not read). He talked a bit about how it’s a complicated issue, being a cop is a working-class job, some people go into it with good intentions, etc. They talked about how the data shows that in poor communities, a lot of people want more policing, not less (saying stuff like “if this were a white community, they’d police it better”). Taibbi mentioned something I didn’t know, which is that Garner had called the police himself on someone else the day before. Taibbi described Garner as “caught between two gangs”, with one of them being the police. Amber’s take was similar to mine in the Abolishing Police thread, that abolishing police is an unworkable position, basically just a slogan, and that the unwillingness of activists to try to explain their position to others was evidence of how unserious a movement it was. It was kind of interesting to me because Amber is a Marxist but she was like, please sign on for doing basic social democratic reforms or gtfo. Like basically my thinking which is that if you’re asked what to do about the police in America and your answer is “well step one, a revolution to overthrow capitalism” then I have no interest in talking to you about it.
The cancel culture stuff, I generally agreed with it and I’m sure it got the haters mad, but it was fairly boring and boilerplate, you can just read Taibbi’s recent piece if you want his thoughts, that part of the ep was mostly just the hosts agreeing with him.
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He agrees with their takes while the majority of listeners do not.
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To me, the episode committed the unforgivable sin of not being interesting, humorous, or insightful. They spend the whole time pointing out that yes, sometimes the police do good things and yes, sometimes people do get canceled.
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I normally only listen to their Monday episodes now.
Wasn’t it defund the police? Not abolish the police.
Going #NotAllCops probably wasn’t going to go well with them.
Haven’t heard the newest podcast yet but their position is pretty sensible based on your descriptions of it.
Posted in covid thread but want discussion here. It’s a podcast about a potential American civil war. He goes over a lot of history on how these things happen and explains how things are boliing over. He’s also a journalist who has seen a lot of stuff first hand. It’s been pretty good so far but I’m only on the 2nd episode.
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Listened to this podcast before and I enjoyed it. Robert Evans has been live streaming from the Portland protests for at least a week now.
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This is what it was for me. I don’t agree with every Chapo position but at least when they do their bit it’s got good riffs, humor, etc. The episode was just whiny.
Loved their most recent episode on Bari Weiss and the military using e-gaming to recruit people to the army. If you like Felix, it’s the episode for you.
I mean it isn’t “Hot Couch Episode” Felix but still very good.
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Robert Evans is kind of a drama queen. He has been to war zones and reported on them but he’s a bit caught up in his own bubble of anti-fascist organizing and tends to wildly overestimate the importance of everything going on inside that bubble. I followed him on Twitter for a while and unfollowed him when I got sick of daily breathless reports on how three guys with Iron Cross tattoos who beat up some antifa dude constitute a clear and present danger to the security of the United States.
(edit: haven’t listened to that podcast so maybe it’s good, but not sure Evans is a guy I trust to give me the lowdown on how serious things are getting)
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Triggernometry
“And also don’t forget, the reason opportunity is often missed is that it usually comes disguised as hard work.”
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Yeah after listening some more I mostly agree.
He definitely can get annoying on twitter but I mostly ignore that. He’s just one of the people who goes to protests a lot and streams, sometimes he’s at protests where I don’t know any of the other people streaming from them so he’s my default then.
Hearing Michael Brooks died. He seemed like a good guy and was pretty funny, funniest Obama impression I’ve ever heard.
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Ok this one is hitting me.
And I can’t find it, it might be locked, but ep42 with Felix devotes 20 minutes to Obama impressions.
He was 35 or 36 I believe.
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I think you mean 27:
The Lord Jabama stuff still creases me.
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yes
p.s. yes
Michael’s sister was on the Majority Report today. She said he died of an unexpected blood clot in his throat. I post this in case people thought, like I did, based on the vague wording in articles that it was suicide or OD. It wasn’t. Just a random tragedy that could happen to anybody. He was 37 years old.
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And I gotta read this right before bed.
Never heard of the guy but the back and forth with Felix was fantastic.