This is a blatant lie. Gas vehicles are still cheaper and better than EV’s. Maybe down the road they’ll get there but they are not there yet.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
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I’m sure you know this since you’re so confident in your predictions.
And that’s 8 years old already. Panel prices were like 3 times higher 8 years ago.
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And people don’t just throw out legacy plants (unfortunately), but almost all new power generation is renewable.
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Biden put a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs. That wasn’t enough. With Trump it’s 247%.
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You’re a reactionary. Idiots talk about mercury from solar panels or wind turbines killing birds while fossil fuel plants release orders of magnitude more mercury and kill orders of magnitude more birds.
Lol. Were you always like this? You are having a moment.
Your information here is not correct, in multiple ways
I’m happy to talk you through this if you have questions, I mean, even Exxon think I’m an expert…
But if you just want to state opinions and then not update them, I’ll just wish you luck.
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This is just not correct. You need to listen to others itt. You are misinformed.
Solar has issues like every power source but it is now cheaper, easy to build, can provide significant renewable energy and objectively is a better electric source than fossil fuel. They are even fixing the storage and peaking issues that caused the recent Spanish blackout.
You are also confusing what net zero means. It doesn’t mean zero fossil fuel is used. We are a long way off from that, far past 2050. What it means is
Far less fossil fuel for energy production
Far more renewable energy like solar and wind, bio energy
Far more nuclear
A massive increase in sequestration
A reduction in ghg from other major producers like concrete, construction ect
A widescale conversion to Evs
A major change to global land use protecting existing and creating new carbon sinks
These debates always break down when it devolves into X is the solution. There is no one solution. The only path is multi pronged. It won’t be solar alone but without solar we are in real trouble.
Also the “it releases chemicals during mining” line of argument is a fundamental misunderstanding of environmental logic. Everything we do has some kind of environmental impact. Literally everything. Pretending some kind of energy has none is just bad science. All we are doing in environmental protection is weighing alternatives and trying to pick the best one. There is no zero impact one.
It’s not clear if we are already past the point of no return (I’m more of a techno optimist than some of my environmental colleagues) but for sure we are at least very close. Decades at best. We need a massive social investment globally into this conversion. If we don’t there will be serious widespread social impacts. It will be bleak.
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It’s already happening in Northern Europe. Partly due to goverment subsidies, but I’m of the firm belief that if you removed all subsidies for EVs in Norway right now, EVs would still completely dominate (we’re at 97% of new cars sold being EVs now). The barrier has been broken, the infrastructure is in place and people have realized they are superior products, pure and simple. I have a very hard time understanding why wheatrich seems to think fossil vehicles are superior, barring some extreme edge cases.
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Maybe it’s just that time flies, but it seems like the progress of electric vehicles is much faster than I expected and I’ve always been very optimistic. Trucks were supposed to be just about impossible, but I’m seeing a bunch of electric FedEx trucks. I’ve also seen a couple fully electric 18 wheelers on the freeway. It’s not there with long haul trucking yet, but very recently it seemed like EVs were only a sure winner for very light commuter vehicles.
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Can you ELI5 why they are superior. I’ve only had mine for 8 months, but from a driver perspective it seems about the same.
Yeah, it can accelerate faster, but I don’t ever really use that feature. Lower emissions is nice, but I doubt that most consumers care that much about that.
I guess there is less maintenance, but it sounds like I’m just going to be switching oil changes for tire rotations in the first few yrs.
Big downside is that I’d never take it on a long road trip because a half hour to recharge every 300 miles is a deal breaker for me. I also very rarely do long road trips, so this doesn’t matter to me either. I just use my ICE for those rare times.
If this is just because you are racing around, that’s not really fair.
Also, cost per mile driven is probably much less.
I’ve been told that I should be rotating the tires every 5-10K miles. Is that not the case?
I haven’t done it yet, I’m a couple of months away from 5K.
Dunno why you’d have to rotate tires more unless you’re peeling out more.
EVs are heavier and put more stress on the tires compared to the same sized ICE. Again, I’m just repeating what I’ve heard from many sources. I haven’t looked into it.
What happens when you amortize the cost of vehicle acquisition over total miles driven?
For like vehicles, the EV tends to be quite a bit more expensive. There is an ICE version of my EV and IIRC, it was quite a bit cheaper.
DOE study concluded maintenance over the lifetime is 4 cents a mile cheaper. Charging is about 10 cents a mile cheaper on average. Looks like saving $30k.
This is only true because Biden and now Trump are putting massive tariffs on EVs.
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I know that the tariffs have something to do with it, but I wasn’t aware that EVs would actually be cheaper without tariffs. The hard part is doing a comparison of vehicles that are essentially the same, but one is ICE and one is EV.
I know that you can get EVs (esp Chinese) that are very cheap, but the really question is what would it cost to make the ICE version of that exact vehicle.
I’ll fire up my VPN and play around with this.