So, what percent of that total goes to the person you hate next door and all the other freeloaders? Your deductions support things like military and shit right? Or is it all to the poors?
I mean 25% of Germanyās GDP is social welfare spendingā¦ itās for sure not 50% of zaraās paycheckā¦ but itās also a substantial amount.
Remember that Germany taxes more money out of its citizens as a % of GDP than the US does and spends waaaaaaaaaaaaay less on the military as a % of GDP. That money is getting spent somewhere, and having an actual welfare state is definitely a real part of that.
I mean this is what most of us are advocating on some level in this forum. Expect the middle class worker doing 80 hour weeks to resent the shit out of their mooching neighbor. That āwhy am I working so hard to pay that piece of shits billsā emotional reaction is why the universal part of universal basic income matters so much when weāre building the next gen welfare system. Everyone gets a check and feels like itās a right of citizenship. Nobody ever gets given money because they donāt have a job ever again. They get money because they are citizens of this country and we are an enormously wealthy country.
Welfare fraud is like 1% here or so. Iād be more than happy to give 25% to welfare instead. Most of them actually need it.
We are a few posts from lobster on EBT cards and Iphones and Cadillac posts imo.
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Oh the mooches definitely need the welfare. They donāt need fraud to get it. Look if youāve never encountered these people before I envy you, but I was raised by them so maybe donāt dismiss my point out of hand.
There are plenty of mooches at other income levels too. Itās a personality type and it fucking sucks. Call them locusts instead of moochers if you prefer.
LOOOOOL
Germanyās budget is 166 billion Euro and it seems this hartz iv is 20 billion. About 1/3 or so of Germanyās revenue is from income tax (including social security and other income related contributions), so Lapka spends about 2% of her income on her neighbor and those like her (eta: in that they receive welfare/dole/hartz iv).
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Thank you. But, not all of those are like her neighbor. Most legitimately need the help.
Bored brings the lobster and cadillac anectdote before Lapka. Good one.
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This is for sure true. And I actually have sympathy for zaraās neighbor. Sheās probably suffering from undiagnosed borderline personality disorder and sheās stuck inside her own head. I wouldnāt wish it on an enemy. I donāt even think these people shouldnāt get welfareā¦ but I also know that they are just about the least sympathetic people in the whole fucking world and every single person they come into contact with is going to have a lower opinion of every single thing they are associated with. Seriously people look into how these people havenāt starved to death to find out what they wish would go away/end.
This is really a pretty accurate thing to say about all the personality disorders tbh. Iām basically convinced that these disorders are how shrinks talk about evil.
And my mother in law buys lobster and 25 dollar a pound steaks with food stamps all the time lol.
You called them mooches. Are they mentally ill or mooches? If they are committing fraud itās like less than 5% of them as far as anything Iāve ever read. Do you know what it takes to get welfare or food stamps and the requirements to get it? If you did, I donāt think you would dismiss it as moochers so easily.
I also meant something when I said she could go to Greece, do the same job for half the money and not pay taxes. Part of why her job pays what it does in Germany is the social conditions which include the social welfare state.
My parents mooch for a living. My dadās dead but from his kids perspective our life was him finding victims to live off of so that he didnāt have to do what he didnāt want to do. My mom is also a career mooch lol. My parents both had personality disorders.
People with personality disorders (and I agree that many of these people have had truly awful childhoods) have a high propensity to be moochers (people who find charity and soak it up for a living), scammers (who steal through deception) and criminals (every type of criminal that isnāt a scammer, they should be separated because of the widely different skillset and tactics used).
Iām not talking about poor desperate people here. Iām talking about a whole bunch of people who live in mansions and drive obnoxiously high end cars as well as people who have figured out how to live a life they consider excellent entirely supported begrudgingly by someone else.
Yeah, I have heard that about America too. Turns out itās pretty fucking hard.
Dudeās bringing the cadillac takes hard.
Nope, I asked what percent of your taxes went to her. You said more than 50% and I called bullshit. Turns out from microbetās post I am a lot closer to correct than you.
Iāve worked in an office before. Most people mooch for a living.
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And itās gross. Seriously itās not as gross as what corporations are doing to the working person everywhere, but itās gross. Society is rich enough to carry you, but if you can do better you should. Not targeted at you @microbet.
Yeah? So what percent goes to your moocher neighbor who is making you rethink working at all?
And yet not only is there enough stuff for everyone, thereās way too much.
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What the hell is happening in this thread?
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