When the people acting like children literally never stop, yeah it’s a necessary tool.
Why are you feigning this intellectual dishonesty like you do not understand the problem.
When people always throw a tantrum when things do not go their way that is traditionally viewed as childish and immature behavior. This happens here like a Groundhog’s Day Zombie Apocalypse mash up.
You or anyone else can claim this isn’t happening to a point of great detriment or that it is not a problem but you and/or them would be wrong.
The childish behavior is not a one sided street limited to one subgroup of people either. I have seen it from all sorts. The inability to let go of anything or to back away without some big dramatic “look at me” intervention has plagued a number of people here. Personally I don’t have a naughty and nice list of who I can and can’t call out. Most of the people I have labeled childish are people I like. But that doesn’t make their behavior okay.
When adults constantly exhibit behavior that normally you only find in 2-4 year olds, trying to get on in the world, they are being childish.
To me it’s just another Trump supporter like bizarro world that I don’t understand. I don’t understand the complete lack of introspection and obliviousness to one’s own behavior.
I am far from perfect and don’t have it all figured out, but some people here are apparently way behind the curve.
If you want to label calling a spade a spade toxic, be my guest. I don’t care. I won’t turn over the table and throw a tantrum. You would still be wrong but it is what it is.
Finally the mea culpa to tantrum ratio here is way out of whack. People have bad days, they get heated. But as an ADULT we reflect on our behavior and understand we are not blameless. This almost never happens here. Instead people just double down and toss another redwood onto the bonfire.
I mentioned in another thread I have been posting online for forty years. I have been in too many online communities to remember. I have a hard time recalling one that has gone so sour. Perhaps the most contentious one was a non political forum with a cross section across the spectrum during 9/11 and when the war started. It was contentious but people still behaved streets ahead of what we are seeing here.
Today we had a call to fully remove a mechanism effectively used to cool people down when they can’t do it on their own. I like cassette, but the idea is not a good one. I would love for people to be able to pull away and disengage on their own. I have been preaching it for months. But people will not do it.
The only way for a site like this to have ultralight moderation is for people to police themselves. I don’t mean one another but each person has to accept responsibility for what they are doing and how they are behaving. It means if someone gets you heated you disengage you don’t light up the rockets. It means sometimes you have enough self control to stay away for a bit until you can reorientate yourself. But too many people here are not interested in any of that. They want what they want and how they want it and have no consideration for anyone else let alone the community as a whole.
If what I am saying is toxic then that’s that. But I have more experience than pretty much anyone here and I see what I see, and I don’t call people out lightly.
