wow lol. I must have missed this whopper the first time around.
Eh, fuck that guy.
Do you believe JT is arguing that the vaccine does not change the number of overall cases but mere converts symptomatic cases to asymptomatic cases among the vaccinated with little effect on spread within the community?
What other respiratory viruses have been subject to as much testing to discover the extent of asymptomatic cases?
So your point is that youâre stanning Churchill? Wow. Big contribution.
And youâll note I say âspreading efficientlyâ, not âspreading at allâ. Vaccine escape has caused increased symptomatic vaccinated cases, which is what has allowed for more spread. That is entirely different than what I say there.
Again, Iâm sure this basic correction will lead to an apology.
JTâs argument is basically âJT misread a post and refuses to accept any explanation that he misread itâ despite numerous attempts to tell him otherwise.
Nothing has ever been tested like covid has.
Lol why do I bother
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Do you believe JT misread a single post and has been doubling down on it all this time or has he been repeatedly misreading several posts on different aspects of COVID and each flare-up is caused by a new post that he misreads?
If people are misunderstanding your position, then it would be useful to identify what they think your position is. That would be more charitable than assuming some sort of personal animus that leads to an intentional misreading when they know what you really think for the purpose of bullying or causing forum drama.
I think thatâs the most charitable reason for his behavior.
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Man you really canât fucking read can you? Lol
Lol jt, I didnât call anyones friend a liar. Have fun
Has anyone of CN, Wookie, CW, or I said you need to be contained? I get that one random poster not really involved in these discussions did.
You all liked the suggestion, (at least you, cuse, and CN), so even if you didnât say it, you supported it. Or maybe youâre just trolling.
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I agree in general about likes, but the post they liked was pretty specific and limited to saying that JT should be contained - I donât see any other possible interpretation for the like.
They also have been silent on whether JT should be contained, so itâs not like we have any words to go on. If jman had posted above that he doesnât think JT should be contained, sure, Iâll ignore the like and take him at his word, but all he did was try to deflect and say he hasnât specifically called for containment.
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I mean, I donât know what other way you can read:
But if you need it spelled out, no, I donât think JT should be contained. I do think that this subject matter should be in itâs own thread.
I think that itâs always helpful when third party neutrals who are not on one of the âteamsâ point out obnoxious posting, yes. Did you really think that @superuberbob should no longer be allowed to post about what is happening in his country in the Covid thread?
Try to keep up. You asked how I could have hearted that post without agreeing with the premise. How could you have posted that he shouldnât be allowed to post about his country without meaning it? Were you being insincere?
I have no idea. Maybe?
No, I said it wasnât.
He wasnât forced to. That was always his definition.
Two shots? Pretty likely. Three? I donât think so, but thereâs a non-zero chance. I wouldnât mind seeing a study that more specifically quantifies R in those cases, but I donât think there has been one. Planting your flag in statements made in April 2021 in the contest of 95% effective vaccine and before even the delta variant emerged as to how wrong we are about omicron is pretty much bullshit. You have to completely ignore context. If you had asked us at the time if R would be greater or less than one for a hypothetical variant that reduced the effectiveness against infection to less than 50% weâd say that transmission by vaccinated people would be much higher, R > 1. Germ theory isnât about how vaccines make you impervious to transmitting disease. Itâs about how you have to get infected to transmit, so a vaccine that doesnât offer much protection against infection doesnât offer much protection against transmission.
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