Stupid people already misuse normal cars.
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It is, and I am no lover of Sai Musk. The tech is pretty great already and I can only imagine where we will be in a decade.
We have the ability to reduce on the road deaths by 95% We will get there eventually if we can overcome the luddites.
This is the best part.
I was a software developer for 30+ years. That involves a lot of unit testing and daily meetings with system testers etc. One thing you learn very quickly is that most complex software has bugs and that the purpose of testing is only to find faults, not to āproveā that something works perfectly (because you canāt).
Thatās the angle I was approaching this from - not from a road userās perspective.
So itās a big concern when one feature of the software fails like this because it casts doubt on how good the testing was as a whole.
I havenāt seen the data on number and types of accidents of Teslas vs conventional vehicles. If it shows over a huge data set that there are a fraction of critical incidents in Teslas compared to the norm then Iād be a lot less concerned.
Throw them in prison for manslaughter.
im with @Jalfrezi on this one. the car driving with nobody in the drivers seat is not just some small oversight and its not comparable to someone putting their seatbelt on the wrong way. and i dont think its unreasonable to say that when designing a self-driving car engineers should have predicted some idiots would try to get away with not being in the drivers seat. .
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Define āworkā.
They do, but people accept that. I donāt believe they will accept it from self-driving cars.
Yes, itās illogical. But people are illogical.
I donāt know of any unit test that could catch something like this and unit tests are mostly worthless at finding real software defects. Maybe in integration testing someone couldāve thought of this. Iām actually sure someone did and then some manager shot it down. Thatās how it always goes.
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Poker player āā-> Boat captain āāā> tech manager āāā-> cloud engineer
Lol at this rate i wonder what my next thing will be.
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There are already systems in place to make sure that doesnāt happen. But it is unreasonable to require a carmaker to not just be proof against someone ignorantly or accidentally trying to get the car to drive by itself, but also to require that it withstands deliberate and attempts to spoof the safety systems.
We can design a system thatās proof against accident and stupidity; but we canāt design one thatās proof against deliberate maliceā¦
āEinstein
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Yes thatās exactly my point. Business software SIT is always limited in its effectiveness by budgets and/or time.
Itās nothing to do with
from what ive seen people are just sticking an orange in the steering wheel?
there should be a min weight limit in the drivers seat. ofc people will try to get around that too but they will have to go through a lot more effort.
Working in software so you understand autonomous driving is like me saying I understand open heart surgery because I work in an ER. Itās fucking stupid. Your complete lack of evidence and cogent argument is also notable.
Bad faith argument #1011001101
I understand what SIT is and what the limitations are; you donāt.
Ah ok. Yea. Donāt disagree there at all. Thereās a massive (like one of the biggest in human history) financial incentive to solving this problem though - which is why Iām pretty certain itāll be solved.
I agree it will be solved to with a very small % of failures.
We arenāt discussing the future - we are talking about something happening now.
Also the thing Iām least surprised is ā30 yearsā. Old people donāt trust automation, despite massive amounts of evidence that humans suck at driving. The bad faith here is a āhuge failureā that has resulted in 0 deaths so far that are easily comparable to things you can do to a non-automated car, with zero evidence to suggest the cars are less safe than any other car.
Ageist and a very stupid and risible personal insult.
You canāt be a software developer without trusting automation because the job is to automate things LOOOOOOOL
Ridiculous
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Thereās a lot of money in wiring up the electronics on yachts. Probably easier to learn than a new programming language.