Like medical ppl and trans allies would say it’s a nonsense term. Elon Musk would use it to describe what medical ppl and trans allies would call a trans man
But I think it’s possible you actually meant trans woman
When I read it I thought it was 98% that suzzer meant trans woman, based on the context.
There might be better pages out there that would explain it better, but this might be worthwhile for suzzer to have a look at:
Really it could be either and it would fuel the outrage machine just as well.
But for the record, I meant, “person who was assigned male at birth and now identifies as female” (given that we can assume this person identifies as female from the news report).
Do I really have to type all that every time or get policed for it? Is there an acceptable shorthand?
The “acceptable” shorthand for that is trans woman. That’s why I said I was 98% sure that’s what you meant. I understood what you were going for even though you used terminology that’s either outdated, incorrect or bigoted, depending on who you ask and who says it.
I wasn’t judging you for it. I just said this is what I think you meant, and here’s an article to explain the terms.
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I will say trans woman next time.
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Serious question:
Are “trans woman” and “trans female” as interchanegable as “woman” and “female”, which is to say sometimes fine, sometimes weird, and occasionally bad.
No, they are not as interchangeable.
I would have thought you would have known that.
Well, I don’t know if I “knew” that, but if I had to guess that is what I would have guessed.
What I really want are some examples where trans woman → trans female is bad, but woman → female is not bad. Do you happen to have any?
This is not my area of expertise, but I don’t think woman → female comes up all that often at all. Can you give me an example or two where that happens?
I use woman when I’m talking about the person and female when I’m talking about the gender of the person, which is probably why I used it here.
His Suzzness clearly had his heart in the right place. Can we please try to be kind with people who are right but for what can be unexpectedly precise and evolving nomenclature?
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Cop testifying: The suspect was an elderly white female
Cop testifying: The suspect was an elderly white woman
I think using female in that spot may not be optimal, but is certainly fine.
I don’t really disagree with this, but it would be great if someone could post the official rules for reference. I’m just going by feels, which is bound to lead to a fuck up at some point.
It’s only used by hateful ppl for trans man, and well intentioned but unread ppl who mean trans woman. That’s it. There’s no other use
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Cop testifying: The suspect was an elderly white female
Cop testifying: The suspect was an elderly white woman
I think using female in that spot may not be optimal, but is certainly fine.
I messed up the quotation marks pretty badly here, but I mainly wanted to make the point that, no, these are not equivalent.
An elderly white trans female, and
An elderly white trans woman
Are not equivalent.
Thanks. The main reason I’ve never really used it is that I’ve never actually heard anyone say it. So it just sounds weird. Most hateful people I have encountered don’t bother with any sort of trans modifiers. They just call a trans man a woman.
Male and female more to do wirh sex ar birth. Man and woman for gender
So hateful ppl who try to project a veneer of intellectualism like Elon and his cult followers will just reduce everything to sex at birth
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Well now that BusinessGenius posted the rule, it is clear. Prior to that I’d just have said that trans female sounds weird (I didn’t know the bigots use that term).
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I think there’s something to them using what they think is a more clinical or scientific term that better conveys their insistence of black and white, immutable trait that nature couldn’t give nuance to. Or like plugs lol. Less humanity connoted