NCAA v. Alston

The answer is to ban colleges from being able to raise a lot of revenue through sports.

Yeah, minor league sports are a real business that survives in the US, seems like the same model could work for football. Iā€™d maybe go out and catch a game if tickets were reasonably priced and beer is <$15 for a Bud.

Apologies for my ignorance, but can you elaborate on this point. I am interested, as I saw paying college athletes as a clear good compared to status quo.

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Asking if players are educated on CTE is head in the sand ignorance! Of course every player by 18 knows football is bad for you!

It should be added MLB is trying to nuke this system.

This is my issue. Donations are not likely being appropriately tracked when these schools do their movie studio math.

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The ones 90% of major sport scholarship athletes s get? Probably close to nothing. I guess you can count room and board.

Yeah I donā€™t know where funcrusher is, but here in America a huge percentage of college athletes donā€™t graduate making the scholarship virtually worthless. And a huge portion of those who do end up with degrees that are worthless.

Itā€™s insulting to players to claim their scholarship has reciprocal value, especially given the reality of university educations and their cost in this country today.

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Okay the donors can pay for that crap. The players can take the majority of the revenue earned by their sport for tv rights, marketing, bowl wins etc.

Itā€™s easy.

Thatā€™s interesting. I would have thought 80%+ graduated.

Is that true, though? I mean, I get that a substantial percentage of superstars in the big 2 sports donā€™t graduate, but those are a pretty small percentage of college athletes, when you consider the crew and cross country and lacrosse teams and what have you.

I donā€™t think anyone has much of a problem with lacrosse or whatever.

What will kids do with fewer opportunities to have their image and worth stolen from them and then completely exploited.

What will those kids do? Is this serious?

Your entire angle in this thread is like you are an alien from another planet and you just landed here yesterday and decided this is the subject you decided to argue.

There are decades of information covering so many angles of all of this. The value an athlete gets from a scholarship alone has been covered substantially over time. Athletes graduating college without being able to read and write. Athletes graduating from college never having been required to attend classes. Athletes graduating from college who were assigned assistants to take all their tests for them. This stuff has been going on forever. The NCAA just works much harder with the universities to hide it better.

You need to educate yourself a great deal more on these subjects before you start vehemently arguing them with people who have.

Like you said, an education is incredibly valuable so why should anyone here provide you one for free? Seriously.

This issue is absolutely heart breaking and itā€™s frustrating as all get out. Because too many of these high profile sport athletes have no choice. But that shouldnā€™t mean they get to turned out.

And agree with others. Football probably needs to be separate because even the NFL doesnā€™t pay players enough for what they do.

Why should athletes who generate massive sums of money care about universities with massive endowments needing to fund other sports. It is not their problem. They are entitled to the money. Itā€™s the schools problem to figure out how to offer other sports.

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This is a huge part of it though. The professional leagues for the NFL and NBA absolutely exploit these kids too. The college system is a free farm system for them. Otherwise they would have to spend billions of dollars.

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But would the scholarships for non-revenue generating athletes go away if revenue generating athletes were paid (or just stopped playing college sports and branched out into minor leagues)?

Nobody is creating a minor league football farm system. It will fail to generator profits 100 of 100 times. The reason why college sports are popular is entirely because it is linked to the school where tens of thousands of students attend and where hundreds of thousands already graduated from. The success is built in.

This is not true. Athletes graduate at a higher rate than the general student body.

Maybe for some people, but thatā€™s not true for a ton of people either (the barely participated in education).

Thereā€™s already a hugely profitable minor league football farm system.